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Magic @ Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Ramu3, Oct 29, 2010.

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  1. goodbug

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    You don't have to agree with me, but unless their roles switch, I don't even see how LeBron getting more MVP votes than Wade.

    Many voters don't even check games, they looked at boxscore and they'd figure out who's the Robin.


     
  2. t_mac1

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    thing is lebron is a better scorer than wade; he can do that with a switch. he did that v. arguably the best defensive team in boston.

    and he's a better playmaker than wade.

    as the team's best player, when you know you can get yours anytime, you go with the flow. it's his job to make the game easier for wade and bosh and others.

    it's very evident if you watch the game who controlled the game for the heat on BOTH ends.

    espn has the replay on. i suggest you go watch it and see what jvg had to say about lebron's performance.
     
  3. Al Capone

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    Yea, theyve only played 3 out of 82 games.
     
  4. clippy

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    One day hopefully, for your sake, you'll have the maturity to watch a game without worrying about who is the "best player". Lebron has obviously shown he is elite (taking that 2007 Cavs team to the Finals is one of the greatest individual basketball accomplishments of the past 20 years), but in order to be accepted into the all-time greats he has to win. Kobe was the exact opposite-- he won early as Robin and wanted to show he could do it on his own. Obviously he didn't since he rode Gasol but in twenty years no one will care. And the same goes for Lebron when he and Wade form the next dynasty.
     
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    It's a bit too easy with this troll, kinda like picking on a r****ded kid. I'm going to tone it down.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    how? easy

    1) lebron is the better defender. the heat is winning with defense and lebron is their best defender right now.

    2) lebron is the better playmaker. anyone who saw the 3 games know lebron has the ball in his hands the most. he has the MOST RESPONSIBILITIES out of the big 3.

    3) and he will score. he's still feeling his teammates out right now and giving others comfortable first. trust me, he will still average 24-25ppg down the line.

    and for the bolded comments, you're wrong. if they only check box scores, lebron would have won 3-4 MVPs already. he's been the leading stat guy for the last 4 years, not 2. kobe would have won the MVP the year nash won his 2nd MVP.

    it's basic how voters vote for MVP. they look at the top 2-3 best teams. and they look at who make the most impact.

    so far, it's been lebron. he's been setting the tone defensively. and he's been the guy handling the rock and setting the offensive tone. over time, he's going to rack up the stats as usual offensively.

    again, i suggest watching the espn replay on espn.com.
     
  7. goodbug

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    Well, what can I expect from a TMac fan. Weren't you calling it a positive when Tmac scored 0 point the other day. You choose to see what you see but your triple double prediction is far off so far.



     
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    Whether LeBron has best stats for 4 years already is debatable. But you have to be in a top team to be considered a legit candidate.

    And so far, LeBron is having more TO than AST, below average PPG and RPG, I honestly don't see how his number's best in the team.

     
  9. t_mac1

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    3 games. if you judge by 3 games, nets will be one of the best teams in the L; durant will shoot 38% for the rest of the season; monta ellis will win the scoring title...

    relax son. the great players will show why they're great. don't get up and down over 1-2 games (the same way you got carried away with cleveland winning ONE game and then got blownout).

    he may not average a triple double b/c the heat is progressing way faster than i thought -> less minutes per game for lebron.

    but he will still average at least 22-24ppg, 7rpg, 7-8apg. if he had to play 39-40 minutes per game the rest of the year, i stand by it. but they're blowing people out easily the past 2 games w/o much chemistry. i expect lebron to only average 34 minutes per game so it's much harder.

    i do have to admit wade will be the leading scorer (proably 25-26ppg). he doesn't have the defensive or playmaking responsibilities that lebron is having.
     
  10. goodbug

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    Gasol went to Kobe, LeBron went to Wade. I know you are r****ded but even a kindergarten kid should know the difference. LeBron may help Wade to be an all time great, but he himself's in competition for the best sidekick with Pippen and he's still 6 rings short so far.

     
  11. clippy

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    I wouldn't be surprised if their numbers mirror their Team USA play, where Wade was the top scorer and Lebron put up better all-around numbers, with both shooting spectacularly from the field.

    (for a good laugh look at Kobe's shooting percentage relative to the rest of his team)
     
  12. clippy

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    Honestly, you are the only person on this board that cares.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    dude i'm going to be done with this guy. when you have lebron critics still saying he's the best player after 3 games, and this guy still chirping about how he's a sidekick... i'm speechless.

    goodbug, you're still down for the bet of who is going to get more MVP votes b/t lebron and wade.

    let's bet $50 to the tip jar.
     
  14. goodbug

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    3 games is a small sample, but you can see the roles. A scorer is gonna score, a facilitator is gonna pass. A facilitator can score more in some games but that won't be the case most of the time. We have 10 years of MJ/Pippen playing together if you want to compare numbers.


     
  15. goodbug

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    Feel free to put me on ignore list, it's not like you didn't swear you would do that a few months ago and you ate crow again.

     
  16. clippy

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    Why don't you take his bet?
     
  17. t_mac1

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    let's use this opportunity to help clutch out.

    $50 of who get more MVP votes.

    wade gets more votes, i put in 50.
    lebron gets more votes, you put in 50.
     
  18. goodbug

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    You know what, after so many years playing with Shaq. Kobe knew only final counted. That's why he toyed with those bottom feeders and still took over in final game.


     
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    This and another $50 for Cavs will win more than 20 games.

     
  20. t_mac1

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    i'll put down 50 if the cavs win more than 25.

    so you're down brother. hopefully someone can take note.
     

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