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Magic GM wants McGrady to make a decision -- soon

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragonsnake, Apr 14, 2004.

  1. madmonkey37

    madmonkey37 Member

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    David Sterns dream would be for tmac to come to houston and play with yao. Imagine the hype a Kobe and Shaq vs Tmac and Yao matchup would create(considering kobe stays with the lakers). Thats taking the two biggest matchups in the league and putting them together.

    Tmac will only go to a team that is winning or will be a contending team with his presence. He has pretty much all the power regarding the trade because he can opt out of the contract. The magic will be not letting tmac go for nothing and a losing team will not trade for him because he will opt out of his contract.

    This makes the rockets a prime target for tmac. The rockets are one of the only teams that can offer almost equal talent for tmac in SF.

    And for the ones that want to trade yao for tmac, go see what types of players have won championship rings the last 10 or so years.

    A. Michael Jordan
    B. Big men


    You can argue that Kobe + payton > tmac + francis

    The best backcourt in the league wont make the rockets a contender,look at the lakers, arguebably the best backcourt plus two dominent big men and they arnt a lock to go to the finals. The chemistry on this team would be **** also. We would have 3 of 5 (more like 4 with cato on offense) require the ball to effective and we still have mobley on the bench to deal with.

    The dream scenario would be the magics are forced to trade tmac for sf because they cant get a better offer and we would be able to Brent Barry as starting pg for the MLE once he realizes tmac + yao = ring.

    Our starting lineup next year would be:
    Yao
    Cato
    tmac
    JJ
    Barry

    With MoT and Cat (if he is not included in the trade) coming off the bench.

    Our starting lineup would be the most dangerous with 3 excellent 3 point shooters in tmac, JJ, and brent barry and yao inside for the kickout.
     
  2. IndianPlaya

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    Man... I'm drooling juss thinking about this lineup:
    Yao
    Cato
    tmac
    JJ
    Barry

    Please.. please... PLEASE!!!!
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    if we had a chance to trade steve for brand, or steve + cat + cato for tmac, hill and lue


    i would go for brand.
     
  4. Phreak3

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    I agree that would be the best scenario. But I don't think it's likely. I'm sure the Magic will get better offers by other teams for Tracy Mcgrady. I would think the Magic would want to trade for someone young and with potential (since they are back in the rebuilding stage). Young and w/potential IS Yao Ming. What if the Magic came to the Rockets asking for Yao or no deal. Should the Rockets just decline, saying "no thanks, we're content with what we've got"? No. I think they should pull the trigger on this deal. Sure, a lineup of McGrady, Francis, Cato, Taylor, and Nachbar isn't going to get you a championship. But, it is an improvement on the current lineup - perhaps enough to get 50 wins next year.
     
  5. dragonsnake

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    Yao and Brand won't enough for us to compete for Championship.
     
  6. RocketFan007

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    Remember the Magic aren't going to trade him to the highest bidder. He'll be traded to be a team that can put together a good package, and to a team T-Mac wants to play for. We know he wants to win, so it'll be a team that he can make a contender, so that definitly limits the possibilities. He's not going to the Lakers since Kobe isn't going to play in Orlando. The Spurs don't have the contracts or the star to make a deal. Dallas is a possibility with all the talent and payroll they have. The Kings would deal C-Webb, but he's 31 and won't help Orlando rebuild. Minnesota really can't put together an attractive package, although Spree will be in his final year. The Pacers are an option with Harrington and Artest being young, realtively cheap and really good. And finally the Rockets who can give up an All-Star point guard who should be close to entering his prime, and the TE to give the Magic some flexibility.

    So, after all that I think it'll probably come down to Dallas, Indiana, and us, with the Rockets and Indiana battling out. Either way T-Mac gets to play with a damn good big man.
     
  7. hle6

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    I think that Yao and others for TMac is not so bad, b/c it would free up some salary so we could get Rasheed Wallace

    Steve
    TMac
    JJ
    Wallace
    Cato
     
  8. RocketFan007

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    Uh, no. With two max contracts in T-Mac and SF, the Rockets wouldn't be signing a big time free agent for a long time.
     
  9. big11

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    But does this line up fits JVG's system though? Don't you think a good center is always has a higher value than a good whatever other position?
     
  10. ihatehyena

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    Too weak inside. Might struggle as Sonics.
     
  11. Samar

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    Yeah, I dont think JVG would give up Yao for McGrady. He likes having a good big man to drop the ball to. Also, despite all the steve bashing and everyone wanting to trade steve, I have still thought that we should keep him. But in the end, what matters is the Rockets and I think the rockets would be better if we picked up TMac for francis because he would fit in better w/ JVG's system.
     
  12. leebigez

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    If Magic want to compete for a playoff spot and rebuild with younger talent, someone will have to take Hill's contract too. They are handcuffed with Hills contract on the books. The Rockets package has alot to offer when you look deep into it. Mobley has a easy to move contract and is a quality player, Cato allows Okefor to stay at the 4 or the hs player to stay at the 4 and Francis is the person to get the people in the seats while you sell this rebuilding idea. Dallas is intruiging also, but they will have to take 2 max contracts,Finley and Jamison and that will lock the team up also.
     
  13. Uprising

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    I recall a NUMBER of posters complaining about "ball hogging, and selfish play". If we get McGrady, it's just going to get WAY worse.
     
  14. Sane

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    Not really. McGrady is not the PG, and he would be the CLEAR second option to Yao. I would say co-options, since they should be equals.

    I don't think McGrady and Lue average more shots per game than Mobley and Francis, correct?
     
  15. Stack24

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    Just becuase a player is a great talent somewhere and he is all this and that does not mean he can work on a team with a different system.

    Mcgrady loves to shoot and slash. He is able to do that becuase there is no big man in Orlando. If you put him in a place with a center that is the first option do you think he will like that?

    We will have the same situation as with steve, he will not want to change his style or it will take him a while. You need an unselfish superstar like a jason Kidd, or Tony parker type player that doesn't mind sacraficing to win.

    Come on now we are talking about the same McGrady that left toronto to become the number 1 option on a nother team instead of being the second behind Carter.

    Don't know why people don't think before posting crap like this.
     
  16. Sane

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    McGrady is better than Carter.

    Let McGrady shoot. Look at his career % in Orlando WITHOUT a solid post presence, it's incredible.

    Imagine how good he can be with a post presence like Steve?

    He's a passer/rebounder too.

    He can drive to the basket, he can play off the ball, he can take over a game, and he's willing to play with someone else.
     
  17. RocketFan007

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    Wrong, T-Mac takes so many shots because he is the only offensive option in Orlando. Also, with alot less talent around him, and despite being a shooting guard, McGrady averaged 5.5 assists per game. Compare that to Stevie's 6.2 per game while at the point, and having some good offensive talent around him.
     
  18. sup123

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    steve post presence?:eek:


    im thinkin u meant yao.
     
  19. Stack24

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    I don't think he would thrive in this system. Yes he is better than carter i don't disagree with you there. But if you put him into a system that revolves around Yao i don't think it would work.

    He has also become this dominating player becuase Grant Hill Never panned out. you have to wonder how many touches he would be giving up if a Healthy Dominant Hill would have been there.

    I really think a system is what brings out the best in the players like Richard Jefferson etc. Everyone says oh we passed on this and that but how do we know he would have thrived in the rockets system. He is that good becuase Jason kidd knows how to pass and plays smart. Just like Jordan made his team look like they were all stars when they were just Role Players.
     
  20. RocketFan007

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    Maybe you should have thought about McGrady signing with the Magic at the same time as Grant Hill. The year before, Hill averaged 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists per game with the Pistons, better numbers than VC. T-Mac signed with the Magic to win, not to be the number 1 option.
     

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