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Madrid: i dont get it. we got Saddam. how did Saddam do it?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ckahlich001, Mar 12, 2004.

  1. AMS

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    Didn't they say that they found Arabic in the ruins of the planes at the site of the terrorist attacks. Also they said that they found arabic passports etc. I mean how the hell can u find paper in a plane crash, but can't find say a persons hand... Anyone think that it was staged, or maybe its just a tabloid.
     
  2. Woofer

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    Anything now is just speculation. It could be AQ working with ETA or it could be ETA putting tracks down that look like AQ or vice versa or most unlikely, neither of the two are involved. Since they announced they apparently found an undetonated bomb with a cell phone attached to remotely detonate it, should be able to track this down even more one would think.

    Also, for conspiracy theorists, the Spanish government would want to make it appear as though ETA did it since the current party is viewed as much tougher on ETA.


    Adeel - going from 500 miles an hour to zero will pulverize most flesh. Many things are much sturdier than living beings, some old diving accidents have resulted in the liquefaction of divers - all they find of the divers is bones and some flesh.
     
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    Sort of off topic, but is there any significance in arab countries or the muslim religion with the number 11?
    March 11 and September 11...or is this just coincedence?
     
  4. thadeus

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    That's probably where the intended significance is.
     
  5. Woofer

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    If they had intended that, don't you think they would have mentioned it in their first message to the West to brag a little? Besides, the ordering of month and day is a convention depending upon your country.

    It's 912 days, too, I think. You have to do the math exclusive of the start and stop date to get 911.
     
  6. AMS

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    are we including leap year?
     
  7. thadeus

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    Who knows? Maybe they did.

    If there is any significance to the date though, that was probably it.
     
  8. glynch

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    Well it looks like the approx 90% in Spain, who opposed the neo-Fascist President's Aznar's backing of Bush's unnecessary war, were right when they claimed it would just make Spain a target for terrorism.

    Spain 99% certain Muslims involved.

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    Moroccans and others arrested.

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    Aznar, Bush's man in Spain:
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    The founder and current president of the ruling party - the Spanish Popular Party - is Fraga Iribarne, who was minister of the interior in Franco's fascist regime. As minister, he was in charge of the regime's much-hated political police, established by the Gestapo in 1937 following General Franco's request to Hitler. Fraga not only has never denounced fascism but believes that the Franco regime (which assassinated 200,000 of its opponents after the civil war ended in 1939) was the best regime that Spain ever had.

    Today, Fraga still publicly defends the Franco regime. And just two years ago, he wrote a very supportive introduction to the book A Historical Lie Finally Denounced, written by his colleague T. M. Bereiro, whose major theme of this book was a denial that the Holocaust ever occurred. Indeed, Bereiro writes, "The Nazi persecution of the Jews was a lie invented by Zionists, communists and the British and U.S. governments." Aznar has referred to Fraga as one of the greatest Spaniards of the 20th century.

    Aznar himself is a son of a prominent Francoist family and during the fascist dictatorship was a member of the fascist party. When democracy was reestablished in Spain, Aznar advocated against approving the new Democratic Constitution. In the right-wing press, he once criticized the Basque town of Guernica (destroyed by Nazi aviation, as immortalized in the Picasso painting that carries its name) for renaming its main square: newly democratic municipality changed the name from Caudillo Franco's Square (the name every Spanish town had to give to its main square during the fascist regime) to Liberty Square. Aznar accused the Guernica municipality of revenge. He wanted the main square to retain Franco's name and Franco's statue. Aznar has never condemned or even criticized the Franco regime, and his cabinet also contains several ex-members of the fascist party - who also have never denounced that regime.

    Aznar's government policies have included
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  9. Woofer

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    Whoa. I thought I was pulling this one out of my nether regions. Unless Moroccans and Indians are now pulling for a separate Basque country. :)
     

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