I'll take that as an apology in your own smug way. I never said I was angry, it's just like if you went up to a mechanic and said "I can do this better, all we have to do is repair the rotator cuff and we're good to go." He'd look at you sideways and just wonder what the hell is wrong with you, even if you did remark that last night you spent the night at a holiday inn express..
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Very true about Alienware... but then again, that goes back making an exception into the rule. Not all PC brands are junk.. but Alienware, at least when it was independent, does not make up a huge part of the market. You have to admit though, that Apple is lot more protective of their brand and product. While it has its limitations, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Probably could've been just as effective saying "Got a new macbook, I love it"... but usually what happens (of course), is you have someone switching instantly from a PC to a mac, and so the comparison is just the first thing that hits them... and if you're like me, you're fed up enough with PCs that you'll be shouting from the rooftops to everyone you know how much better they'll like it, too.
I can see that, and touche with the South Park for South Park comeback. Look, there will always be people who buy macs, I love the competition of the two markets, but at the same token I feel like people get lost in their own brand and don't really understand what's actually going on. If I've ever said a PC is easy to use, I'm sorry, I lied. It's logical, not easy. There are good and bad to both sides, but at the end of the day I feel like the better product is the more compatible one. All I'm saying is don't come into here and scream platitudes and rumors. actually know what you're talking about. If I'm proven wrong, great, I'll take it.
I think it stems from the fact that a lot of the people posting here are big gamers. And it's true that if you're a gamer, the Mac is expensive and pointless for you. I'm not a big computer gamer, and would say that I kept my gaming to my desktop PC instead of my macbook.....until it up and died. In every other respect, I've enjoyed the macbook as much as the PC: music, bit-torrents, ripping DVDs, file conversion, photo editing, etc. The people that I know that are major photographers all use or migrated to mac for managing their photos digitally. It's funny that the netbooks are getting brought up - I actually got the Acer Aspire for xmas from my wife cause she know that I wanted a back up PC....but wanted nothing to do with Vista. If I were to get another desktop PC, I would absolutely want to build my own. You can't trust the stuff built for you, which is sad. Evan
Its funny because most of the people who do production around the UA use PC. It's just weird to see how some are in certain camps, and some are in others. I don't know, after doing production on PC for so long I won't even go near anything else. I love the netbook concept myself, I'm looking at the Asus EEE, so I know what you mean. As for building a PC I completely agree, but not from a trust standpoint, from a price one. I will continue to build my own PC's until it gets too expensive to do so, ironically it's getting cheaper and cheaper every year.
I would also love to hear some more valid comparisons between the two. been a pc user forever, but not a gamer on the computer. uses are primarily internet and media related, especially photography. ability to use office products is a must, also. in short, i'm no tech expert, like to surf the web, play music, watch movies, take and store and edit and view pictures galore, and do business on the computer.
I don't know about the type of business you do or what kind of software you need for it, but for the other stuff any macbook or pc notebook will do. You'd be ok with a macbook. I have one. What I do with it isn't very extensive - it's basically less than what you said you'd do with it. The interface is nice, but it has its quirks that really don't make as much sense to me coming from a Windows interface. You'll have to figure your way around, but that's true of anything new. By "office products", do you mean Microsoft Office or would just any "office" package do?
I meant Microsoft Office and by business I really just meant access to those and occasionally semi-related products. Or accounting software packages, etc. I figured either would work, so then why even consider the change? Well, I do think Apple does make some stuff that is intuitively easier to manage, makes sense and from what I hear, just works right. Whereas I cant say I've ever been completely pleased with a PC purchase, in that they do always slow down, act up, etc. typically sooner than I'd like. I guess the question is, is the extra $ plus having to learn the ways of the Mac worth it? I think we may give it a try when the next purchase time comes around and see.
I just bought a new Macbook Pro...it costed a huge chunk of change, but I do video editing (I purchased Avid for it) and eventually want to start doing some of my own business from home so it'll be well worth it. I had priced and debated between PC and Mac for a while to run the editing software, and really the Macbook needed to run it wasn't a whole lot more than the PC laptop it would've taken. Maybe a few hundred dollars, which in my mind it is worth it to pay a little more for a more dependable OS. Like someone said earlier in this thread, Apple makes all of the components which make it a more solid machine, whereas PC is really pieced together by multiple manufacturers. Now, if you're just looking for a standard computer for internet and word processing and simple things like that, there is nothing wrong with going with a cheap PC like Dell. But for anything advanced where you need the dependability I feel like Mac is the way to go. It may be true that some people buy Macs because they "look cool and glossy", but I bought mine for the performance.
Actually, most of the users of Avid complain about it on Mac, and Avid won't be supported on Mac OS much longer.. Mac OS is good if you want to encode videos, but as for the editing, PC has shown greater reliability. I think you're comparing Apples and Oranges here because the only issues of OS stability stem from when you're using too many resources at once, internet stuff, things like that. When it comes to Video Editing software, picture editing, things of that nature, the stability is more contingent on the software manufacturer. Good luck video editing in a non-DX10 environment without GPU acceleration, its not fun.
Aren't Mac's basically computers for beginners? If you are somewhat proficient with a computer, I think PC is the way to go. That is what I have been told.
I was well aware of the previous issues with Avid on Mac when I bought both, and that's why I bought a supported system from Avid's list. So far I haven't done anything too complex but it's run smoothly (it's run just as well as an HP laptop ran it that I used for work previously). Eventually I'll get Final Cut as well, because both fcp and avid have things I like about them enough to get both. And for the record, where I work I have the CS4 production premium on both a Mac Pro and a PC (XP 64 bit)...both with 2 GB RAM and similar processors, and the Mac runs smoother by far and allows more applications at once.
