Just do a search on Drexlerfan22 posts and you'll see that he bashes jordan any time he gets the chance.
What SPECIFIC instances of his time in Washington did you disagree with? The one move, trading Rip Hamilton for Brian Cardinal, Stackhouse, and Bobby Simmons -- was lauded at the time. Not for the Cardinal/Simmons inclusion, but in trading Hamilton for a player that was a year removed from winning the scoring title. Beyond that, Drex, were you on board with taking Pau over Kwame in 2001? If so, you were the only one. Were you cool with trading Juwan Howard's contract for Etan Thomas? Doesn't make much sense. Way behind buying out Rod Strickland? Seriously? Cool with taking, what, Jiri Welsch instead of Jared Jeffries in 2002? Who else would you have taken? Chris Jeffries? Kareem Rush? Don't sign Larry Hughes? Don't trade for Brendan Haywood -- for pennies on the dollar? What particular aspects of his time in Washington do you disagree with? Calling Kwame Brown a pansy? Was he wrong? Asking Jerry Stackhouse to play through pain? Was he wrong? Insisting that his players listen to Doug Collins? Was he wrong? Let me know, when you come up with a beef beyond ... "MJ's a jerk! He hurt their feelings!"
Look, there's plenty of blame to pass around in the Michael Jordan/Wizards saga. Jordan had been the saviour of the NBA and wore a halo that tales of gambling, womanizing and Ego-Trips-From-Hell could not (badly) tarnish. But he wasn't much of an executive. I guess I can't fault him too much for drafting Kwame Brown---all NBA execs imagine the "next Kobe" or the "next KG". Still, MJ's pride got in the way when the Bulls offered Elton Brand for the #1 pick. Anyone think MJ should have overlooked his hatred of the Jerrys and made that trade? Hindsight being 20/20, of course. Also, being MJ, he couldn't tolerate lesser talent, and always berated the young players. Tear them down to build them up? I don't know, it just wasn't gonna work. MJ should've attached himself to a team with some chance of winning, not to the hapless-at-the-time Wizards.
obviously you cant seem to get over the fact that jordan owned drexler in every facet of the game...which explains why you are so anti jordan...get over it..drexler is a HOF too, he just wasnt the best ever...
Just do a search on your posts, and you'll see that you never actually argue any points, you simply say I'm wrong and personally insult me. Real impressive... Obviously you're putting words in my mouth, because I've been around here for awhile and have never even come close to claiming Drexler was the best ever. I suppose if my moniker were "Bullardfan," you'd assume that I thought Bullard was the greatest of all time? Try actually reading someone's posts, smart guy. As I said, that trade might have helped them win at the time. But the fact is that Hamilton was 23, and averaging 20 per game. Trading him was just plain stupid. If you must know, at the time I'd have taken: Curry Gasol Richardson Battier Brown Yeah, Curry wouldn't have been much better, but that wasn't my point. My point was that Jordan was supposed to be letting the guy develop into the future of the franchise, and instead he dominated the ball in a desperate attempt to relive past personal glory. Yeah, that stuff was fine. I might've taken Ely instead of Jeffries, but that's neither here nor there. And actually yes, I'd have thought about Rush, too... I thought he was a lock to go to the Pacers at 14, at the latest. But again, not too much of a difference. Huh? Obviously there's nothing wrong with that. My problem is that Stackhouse was there in the first place. Oh, gee... glad you mentioned that. This is the same guy Jordan ousted when he was in Chicago. He brings him back in, says he's gonna listen to him. And everyone else should too, of course. Jordan says he's going to come off the bench... that he's not gonna impede a young team's development. Also, he was going to go hard in practice so the young guys could "learn from the best, learn to be competitive," blah blah blah. Well, he decided practice taxed him too much. He just rode his exercise bike instead. Oh, and that off the bench thing? That lasted what, half a season? Maybe? Fast forward to a game against Dallas late in the first season. Wizards are down, and Jordan is gunning like crazy. He takes every key shot. Wizards lose in a close one. What does Jordan have to say about this? Surprise! He BLAMES DOUG COLLINS for "not using him right." Don't you think that maybe... just maybe... such public criticisms might undermine a coach's authority? Hmmmmm? Hmm... so he traded their best young player for a veteran. He said he would practice to help the young guys, then didn't. He said he would come off the bench and let the team grow, and then got himself put in the starting lineup and led the team in shots. He said he realized he needed to be patient with Brown, then berated him for not becoming a star within a month. He undermined the head coach's authority, making a dysfunctional team even more so. Greeeeeaaaaaat job. I'm not saying he didn't make any decent moves. He made some decent ones. However, I think my 1-year old nephew could've figured out that getting out of Strickland and Howard's contracts was a good idea. And really, other than that, he didn't do a whole lot that was positive. Haywood? Fine. Good. But any number of other executives could've done a better job.
Did MJ sacrifice important future pieces for immediate personal glory? Yes. However, I think the Wizards probably expected that. And if they didn't, they were f*ing stupid. Both MJ and the Wizards got what they wanted out of the deal--MJ got to relive his glory days and the Wizards made a bundle of cash. Both parties knew they were in it for a short-term relationship. The Wizards wanted Jordan the Marquee and did not (and should not) expect him to be the next Jerry West. Jerry West and the Lakers had a marriage; MJ and the Wizards had a consensual one night stand. I think neither party has the right to b**** about it afterwards.
That's my biggest problem with this. The fact that Jordan has the nerve to actually complain about it.
Wow, you do take things personally. I thought this thread was about Jordan. Nice shamless plug of Jordan being the greatest. Although, I would add 'arguably' in front of that because some historians of tha game can make just a good a claim for some other players in the history of the game.
If Kwame has the potential that Jordan sees in him then there is no reason why Jordan should not scream at him. Jordan wanted to start winning right there and then. He's a competitor. He figured if the team showed signs that they were going to win then he could drag in players to beg to play for that franchise. I honestly would have to side with Jordan on this issue. I still think when he was out there he showed more competitive attitude than alot of the players out there. He did show the nba why he is so great. At his age he was still an amazing and did better than most players ever do in the NBA.
If I don't reply that means I don't and I don't.... It would take me ages to upload just the trailors much less the whole thing....
