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Luis needs to average 12.3ppg ...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. Kam

    Kam Member

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    26 points and 9 rebounds is not good enough?

    i rather take that.
     
  2. levintblack

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    In most years this is true but not this year. Yu can't compare what Scola is doing to what a typical ROY does. You have to compare him to what people are doing this year. This year is one of the worst in a very long time. No one has come in and shined right away. That said Durant has pretty much locke it up with his 53% shooting this month.
     
  3. levintblack

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    As would everyone else. 20-10 is just an established line for great post players. Remember a couple years ago when nay sayers were all over Yao because he was averaging 9.2 rebounds rather than 10 thus keeping him from the lauded 20-10 group.
     
  4. BucMan55

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    It would be kinda cool, but lets hope he stops blowing layups so he gets it easier.
     
  5. levintblack

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    Amen. That has been very frustrating of late.
     
  6. IROC it

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    Cool Breeze Luis Coca Scola
     
  7. ParaSolid

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    Please say NO to "Passion Assassin"

    Scola is not some guy who picks out your wallpaper or listens attentively to your problems when you need him to (Passion Assassin).

    He's a straight-up thug who'll take your money and make you like it. Rambo, baby!
     
  8. pmac

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    Stats are worthless to me it doesn't show how good a player is in any way shape or form. I kinda wish they didn't even keep track of them so people would be able to look past them to see the actual value of each player to their team. Instead, it ends up being about who's averaging what.

    Guys like Monta Ellis, Barbosa, and J.R. Smith get all this credit for scoring but they allow the guy their guarding to get like 5-10 pts above their average. Some guy puts up crazy numbers on a terrible team and gets praised. I wish i could watch more nba games but i watch enough to know that stats are no substitute for knowledge of a player's skill, abilities and value to his team.

    If you know Scola is ROY thats all that matters.

    its all about how you play and how you play together...and of course winning
     
  9. durvasa

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    Stats are nothing but a record of what happened during the game. They are necessary, and every team uses them.

    But the leap people too often make, and I agree it's wrong, is saying that a player must be "better" than another player because he averages X more points or rebounds, etc. Firstly, what does it even mean to say a player is "better" than another player? In a team sport, that term makes sense when comparing teams ... less so when comparing individuals. Secondly, there are too many things that an individual is responsible for that isn't covered in the box score. At best, relying on stats in a box score gives you only a rough approximation of the value a player brings.

    As for Luis, I'd much prefer he up his FT% to 70% than average 10 ppg.
     
  10. pmac

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    True...

    I guess it would make more sense to me if there were more stats then. Maybe something that as in 'plays' made. Something that quantifies the amount of times someone effectively boxed his man out, drew in the defense, found the open space, stopped someone from getting to the paint, etc.

    I just hate to see guys like larry hughes get these crazy contracts because they put up good stats for a while. While other guys who contribute almost as much like a Ryan Bowen, Mike Harris, and Najera have to struggle to stay on the court.
     
  11. forenzi

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    I like the mean argentine
     
  12. DaDakota

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    You guys are missing the point, it is fun to root for things in addition to winning.

    SHEESH !

    DD
     
  13. jasonemilio

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    Thank god for veteran posters like you DD......we need more objective and "fun" threads like this, as oppose to the common hate threads.

    And yes, it would be totally awesome if Scola can achieve a double double for the season; its also a very significant step for us in that we finally have a viable PF option.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    As bad as the loss was to San Antonio, good ole Luis gave us 24 points which means he now has to only average 11 ppg over the last 9 to reach double figures.

    Actually he is just 9 points shy...so if he gets 19 in the next game he will be there.

    GO LUIS !!!

    DD
     
  15. Winrockets

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    It would also help his ROY consideration :D , I mean since Scola has been starting our record is 33-5 or something (I made that up but it should be somewhere around there). Durant and Horford maybe have better stats but Scola has the better FG%, the Rockets have the much better record and he has stepped up without Yao.
     
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    Frankly I just hope those who have the voting rights for ROY will take into consideration of the IMPACT the rookie brought to his team, and NOT just based everything on the stats.

    After all, Kevin Durant is a good player, but his team is lousy and he will not be making the playoff.

    If Amare Stoudemire can win the ROY over Yao Ming cos the Phoenix Suns made the playoff and the Rockets did not, then the same justification should apply here this year for Luis Scola to nip the ROY from the players now ranked above him.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Exactly Pryuen, and Scola has had to adjust with Yao out, and still be productive, Yao made it a lot easier for Scola, now he has to get more from put backs and hustle than the easy 12 foot kickout from Yao.

    DD
     
  18. thelasik

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    Spot on.
     
  19. jopatmc

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    Oh I agree. But the other thing they are going to consider is his age and whether he really is a rookie or not. He's a rookie in terms of the NBA. But he's not really a rookie in terms of professional basketball. This fact alone, while it should not be in the discussion because he is a legitimate rookie in the NBA, will probably sink him in terms of winning the ROY.
     
  20. pryuen

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    Naaaaaah, if that logic works, then Pau Gasol would not have won ROY in 2001 ~ 02 season, and all those international players of pervious seasons, including Yao Ming (who had played 5 years of professional basketball), would not have been eligible for ROY. :rolleyes:
     

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