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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. finalsbound

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    definitely...but how much of abortion's bitter opposition will be in favor of more money being allocated to "welfare mothers".....my parents sneer about those people having a bunch of babies. i have to remind them, "uhhh, you know it's not just a bunch of middle-class white kids being aborted." you have to care about all the surrounding issues. so what gives.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    Sadly, most anti-abortion advocates are more interested in 1) imposing their religion/morals on society and 2) punishing people... instead of education and rehabilitation. Not interested in alleviating suffering or fixing the problem.
     
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    Of course this is true, and exposes the hypocrisy of "moral" arguments in favor of a blanket illegality. To a certain extant, Donny is correct I think in arguing it tantamount to punishment and/or control.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    Even then you still get guys like the poster in Hangout admitting that he has sex a few times without a condom, because none of his friends do, and plans to continue doing so.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    The reason he's doing that is not because he received too much sex education.
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    I didn't say that he had. I was just pointing out that we still have people practicing unsafe sex based upon what they see their peers doing. This might be out of lack of sex ed or this might be out of being cavalier or stupidity.
     
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    I thought he didn't wear it so that they could "love each other to the fullest without it"

    Seems like he also fooled himself with that line.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    Late term abortions should be banned. All other abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Speak all you want, the mirror is listening.

    DD
     
  10. giddyup

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    What greater suffering is there than destruction? Where do you get your stuff? The greatest interest of this pro-Lifer is in saving the innocent lives of babies who are likely to be terminated out of fear or inconvenience.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    Laws don't stop abortions.

    Improving society does.
     
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    This is what it all comes down to.
     
  13. giddyup

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    The dead can't/won't wait for anyone's educational program.
     
  14. Phillyrocket

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    Yep yep this is my favorite part.

    "Having an abortion is a sin blah blah blah!!!!"

    Unwed mother has the child and then goes on foodstamps, section 8 housing and Medicaid.

    "All entitlement programs should be ended and those welfare mothers with their 5 kids by different fathers should be incarcerated/shot/sent to a labor camp/deported!"

    Republicans only care about your life before it's begun afterwards they support the death penalty, sending you to war as cannon fodder, or stripping away your foodstamps and Medicaid to let you die of starvation and disease.

    HYPOCRITES.
     
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    What is this in response to?
     
  16. Ubiquitin

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    Saline does not burn fetuses. It induces uterine contraction which expels the fetus/infant. A saline injection into the uterus when the pregnancy is after 30 weeks would produce a premature infant, at 38 weeks like this girl, you just get a baby.

    She does look like the Joker though.

    (Stubblefield et al. 2004)
     
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    I was interested until she called Pres. W Bush "Extraordinary".

    You should only see the word "Extraordinary" when referencing W. if it in followed immediately by the word Stupid, Bad, or Idiotic.
     
  18. giddyup

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    Adoption anyone?
     
  19. giddyup

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    Let's just strike the DWI laws off the books and improve society instead.

    Same with rape. If we just improve society, the incidence of rape will taper over the decades, maybe centuries, and everything will be rosy some day. After all, rape should be infrequent. The victims of it, in the meantime, will just have to realize that their sacrifice was made for the sake of.... whom? what?

    (Did you notice I didn't use the word "sin" even once?)
     
  20. giddyup

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    Have you ever accidentally swallowed salt water at the beach? It's not pleasant.

    http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/ASMF/asmf9.html

    Salt Poisoning

    Otherwise known as "saline amniocentesis," "salting out," or a "hypertonic saline" abortion, this technique is used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby.

    A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and 50-250 ml (as much as a cup) of amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. [53] The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt, and is poisoned.[54] The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. [55] Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 33 to 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned, and shriveled baby. [56] About 97% of mothers deliver their dead babies within 72 hours.[57]

    Hypertonic saline may initiate a condition in the mother called "consumption coagulopathy" (uncontrolled blood clotting throughout the body) with severe hemorrhage as well as other serious side effects on the central nervous system. [58] Seizures, coma, or death may also result from saline inadvertently injected into the woman’s vascular system.[59]
     
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