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Louisiana Judge rejects inter-racial marriage

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    two things,

    first of all why does it matter if someone says they won't date outside of their race. it doesn't hurt the other race. a group black men deciding not date outside of their race has no impact on the women they aren't dating as opposed to a school denying a kid the opportunity to get an education because of race.

    if a white guy says he doesn't date women outside his race for physical attributes wouldn't bother me at all. do you like obese women? are you being discriminatory if you refuse to date obese women? its a physical attribute.

    I guess this is a third thing, because of the condition of the black male in this country, I have no problem with the position I stated above. and it has nothing to do with the physical attributes.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I think you are right in that sometimes it is a crutch or an excuse. I don't see that in the majority of cases, but at the same I also see some cases of racism that are completely ignored.

    I think also there are a lot of cases where the truth is somewhere in the middle. A person may honestly believe racism is involved in a decision. There is a reason why people believe these things. It's because in their lives they have experiences in which they are discriminated against. It may happen frequently enough to where they are perhaps a little trigger happy. But that doesn't change the fact that they still experience racism, and it isn't fair.
     
  3. Lil Pun

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    It doesn't really matter but that does not mean it isn't racist.

    As I said before, yes it is discriminatory. I know a guy who won't date a girl under 220 so he is discriminating against a certain group of females.

    Which one?
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the decision to date black women isn't because they hate white women. as a matter of fact it really has nothing to do with white or any other race of women other than than black women.



    i'm sorry calling this discriminatory is just flat out stupid. its just like that gay thread I started, is it disriminatory not date guys also? you date who you're attracted to.



    the post you responded to, it has to do with the condition of the black community more than anything else
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Lil Pun, would you marry a man?

    If no, do you consider yourself a homophobe?


    all these open-ended questions....suddenly I feel like vlaurelio..
     
  6. Mrs. Valdez

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    As for black men committing to only marrying or dating black women, it is an oddly altruistic excuse for racism. Besides, it seems to be based on the idea that the only suitable option for a black woman is a black man. Or, more commonly, based on the idea that black women really aren't attractive to anyone besides black men so that if black men are broadening their dating horizons black women are left without options. I don't believe this is really the case so I think you can assure your black male friends that black women are attractive enough to find a man without their misguided dating preferences.

    As for men exclusively dating asian women, for instance, I think that is somehow even worse. Essentially it is fetishizing asian women, or overweight women, etc. Women (nor men for that matter) do not exist just for someone's sexual pleasure. It is the difference between appreciating a person's particular beauty and seeking out a specific trait.
     
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  7. Lil Pun

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    I already stated I would not marry a man because I don't find men attractive.

    No, because I am not scared of homosexuals or their practices. Me choosing not to be with a man might make me sexist but not homophobic.
     
  8. pgabriel

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    I agree with your point that it is making an assumption about black women but the reality is for most people, they date inside their race. I still though go back to what the definition of racist is. the decision has nothing to do with hating women of other races. its a matter of choice. why must you broaden your horizon on whom you choose to date. what is wrong with wanting to be comfortable in an intimate decision as who you choose to share your bed with
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Wait, so what's the difference between you not finding men attractive and a white man not finding black women attractive?
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    EDIT. Read that wrong.

    The difference is one is based on sex and one is based on race, no?
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    I would argue that both are based on physical appearance.
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    But it is still based on race. I'm not saying that people who do this hate the other races but they do exclude them from people they would have an intimate relationship with based on one simple characteristic, race. True or false?

    Why? If a famous person came out and said something like I would never date somebody that's fat/obese/overweight whatever? You don't think they'd catch a **** storm of controversy from that about them discriminating on the weight of others, especially if they're male?


    In those instances, is race still not the issue?
     
  13. Lil Pun

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    I'll tell you a funny story that happened to my friend and his frat brothers. Him and his frat brothers were on a trip to Gainesville for Sigma week at the University of Florida. They went to some club or party one night and one of his frat brothers was dancing with this lady. He had no qualms about dancing with this lady until one of his frat brothers from the area told him it was actually a man. You see, she was fine until he found out she was not a she after all.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    yes, but that doesn't mean its "racist". its racist to hold someone back because of their race or to have a negative opinion because of their race. its not a zero sum game, just because you won't date outside your race doesn't mean you hate people outside your race.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    I like you far too much to sit here and argue about this over and over again. We agree to disagree, I'll leave it at that. :)
     
  16. bnb

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    Are you guys seriously debating that the differences between race and gender are the same? The whole basis of anti-racism is that we're all essentially the same regardless of race. That skin color doesn't matter.

    Ain't nobody claimed the same thing about gender.
     
  17. thadeus

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    :confused:
     
  18. pgabriel

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    the point is what is wrong with being attracted to a race exclusively? is this just not at some point nature. do you have to be open to interracial dating to not be racist?
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

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    All I’m saying is that just because a man isn’t physically attracted to women of a different race doesn’t automatically make him a racist. If anything, it just means he’s too picky.

    Anyhoo, I’m outta here too. Can’t believe I’m posting in a race thread on a Friday afternoon.
     
  20. pgabriel

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    I don't know if you meant this to be funny by the fact it is the thadeus who is confused about not existing for someone's sexual pleasure it hilarious
     

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