By the way, you missed these guys... Hiram Rhodes Revels Joseph Rainey Blanche K. Bruce John Willis Menard Charles Nash John Mercer Langston and I'm sure a few more...
Man, what kind of a tard are you? Since we're on a little affirmative action crusade, I can name, just from Clinton's Caginet: Mike Espy, Henry Cisneros, Federico Pena, Norman Mineta, Togo West, Jesse Brown, Ron Brown, Bill Richardson, Alexis Herman, and if you want to count midgets and Lebanese, Robert Reich and Donna Shalala. Vernon Jordan I guess counts too; I'm sure there are others also. I guess somebody already covered your talismanic reference to Robert Byrd, as if that somehow justifies push polling and Willie Horton all the other wonderful stuff the Republicans have done relative to the good ol' southern strategy (which of course is not dead, "Call me Harold!"; man if that is the kind of thing I had to take solace in I'd give up taking solace. Actions do speak louder than words- that's why George Bush pulls a mighty 10% of the African American vote...did you just figure this out?
fair enough. people change parties, and change their ways of thinking all the time. as do parties, and politicians in those parties. but the point still lingers: the party didn't choose these people, they chose the party. is there by chance a breakdown of the wealth of this 10%?
Yeah, I will break it down for you: Oprah thinks Bush is a douchebag. As does Bill Gates. Your point?
so lets see, 300,000,000 people in the US the top 3% of that is 9,000,000 people. you list 2 who think he's a douche... that leaves 8,999,998 to be accounted for. now of those 8,999,998 how many were in that 10%
you use a stupid line with no substance, i use a stupid arithmetic charade. you obviously don't have a breakdown of the mighty 10% of the African American vote, a simple no to my previous question would have sufficed.
my point, and i'm sure you're not such a tard as to have missed it, was not to praise lott (rather the opposite if you read the original post), but merely to point out in subsequent posts, in response to rim-i'm-really-12-years-old-but-i-play-a-13 y/o-on-cc.net-rocker's post suggesting byrd was sum kinda diffrn't re trent. he ain't. they're two peas in a racist pod that shouldn've long ago been shucked and cast aside.
Stupid line with no substance? It's completely substance - it's a cold hard fact. No spin, just fact. FACT FACT FACT. If you have some pet theory as to income - prove it. Considering that middle and working class whites in the south and west make up a lot fo the Republican base, and urban professionals on the coasts with many times their income make up a lot of the democratic base, I think any assumption you're going to draw from this is per se invalid unless you can back it up.
FACT - Oprah thinks Bush is a douchebag. As does Bill Gates.? you prove it, show me an article or a sound clip where they say, "I think W is a douche." as for income, i suspect, the majority of that 10% that voted for W is probably in the top economic class for African Americans. i have no data to back this up, which is why i was asking for it in the first place. like most of my posts on this board, the question may have sounded sarcastic, but it was a genuine question. if anyone knows of the breakdown, i would be interested in seeing it.
Uh, the "fact" part, to which you took offense, is that Republicans have had little to no success in obtaining African American support in the voting booth. Nor has he had any success in obtaining the support of wealthy African Americans to anybody's knowledge. If I started writing a list of prominent, well off African Americans who have spoken out against his policies i would be here all night. If I started writing a list of vocal African Amrican proponents of his regime, i'd be here for about five seconds As basso said: action speak louder than words.
clutch is right, the d&d is full of Monkeys flinging poo at each other... you and me included. my amazement that you continue to reply to my posts is only surpassed by the fact that you continue to reply to yours. you have neglected to logically and thoughtfully respond in each and every reply to me, you've made in this thread. so lets go back to the beginning. ignoring what economic status, where are you finding the mighty 10% of the African American voters for W?
You're right, I drastically understated his performance. He managed a powerful 11% in 2004 (up from 9% in 2000). http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
So I'm acting like 13 yo? Well, I do believe in the spirit of Santa Claus and you see no difference between a racist in the 1940's who later apologized and worked for social justice and one in the 2000's who didn't. I wonder which of us is more childish in their beliefs...
thank you. it only took 43 posts between the 2 of us to get here. now, time to work on my theory, which will require ample assumption, and probably won't prove a thing. a side note, the >$100,000 was 18% of the vote - 2,459 Bush received 58% of it - 1,432 votes. i guess there are more than 2 rich people (oprah, bill gates) that agree with sam.
I make over 100,000 and I didn't vote for Bush, as do a number of people I know (actually almost everybody in manhattan that I know): Per capita income (2004 election) 1. D.C. (D) 2. CT (D) 3. MA (D) 4. NJ (D) 5. MD (D) Per capita income (2004 election) 46. NM (D) 47. WV (R) 48. AR (R) 49. MI (R) 50. LA (R) You cannot assume that people with certain incomes will vote for bush...especially if there are extenuating factors that skew it the other way (people w/graduate degrees, for example, or people in urban centers, or race).
Richard Parsons (Chairman of AOL/TimeWarner), Kent Hamblin and Larry Elder, although the latter two's presumed wealth is related to their politics, so maybe he doesn't count. Also, Joseph C. Phillips, the guy who played Denise's husband on The Cosby Show. Oh, and Eazy E.
