I don't know if it was intentional or not but I laughed my ass off when Hurley was like NOOO right before the Japanese guy smashed the wooden thing in half only to find a note inside.
well i guess i should have not watched that video posted on the previous page because if what you are saying is true then it would really make me question a short scene in that video.
I know which scene you're referring to and Kimmel questioned Darlton about it. Spoiler When Kimmel suggested that Jacob inhabited Sayid, they said something along the lines of "Well, that IS interesting" which is their way of saying that the idea has merit. But then when Kimmel said it didn't make sense knowing about that scene in the promo, they said that his theory would evolve over the next few episodes. So it kind of sounds like both are true somehow. Sayid is alive, but Jacob is also involved somehow.
Ready for my theory? Spoiler The "Others" in the temple are the crew of the Black Rock. The Temple was lead by an Egyptian god (Jacob), and protected by Smoke Monster and they were guarding the fountain of youth/eternal life. Eventually the smoke monster wanted to take over the temple, but due to the Master/Slave idea the Smoke Monster was unable to kill a god himself because its not allowed and was eventually expelled. The crew of the Black Rock crashes on the island, and Richard is their captain. He was given a choice to align himself with the Jacob or the Monster. He picks Jacob and is given eternal life by drinking the water and his followers continue to follow him as their captain. Anyways when Jacob dies so does the powers of the fountain as evidenced by them saying the color changed and the Japanese guy's cut hand did not heal. In essence what we saw on the plane was the end of the show. The ones on the list are there to set time back to normal. So in 2007 (when they are in the temple) they will most likely kill the smoke monster/flocke and set time back to how it was pre-black rock...leading to life going back to normal and that their flight in 2004 lands. So I am positing that what we saw tonight was two time lines, the time line ON island, to get them back to the time line to get them to the plane back in time. Juliette said IT WORKED as in the bomb put them back on the correct tiem line to close the loop so to speak. Questions? Comments? Its long winded so be prepared for WALL OF TEXT.
The Black Rock was a slave trading ship. When Flocke made the comment to Richard about "it's nice to see you out of those chains", I think that established that Richard was a slave on that ship when it came to the island. Also, while your theory on the inhabitants of the temple may be partially true, Cindy the stewardess and two of the children from the tail section were there, so there are at least some new members there. Also, when Ben went to intercept the Losties so they couldn't call the freighter, he told Richard to take the others to the Temple. Ben was held captive for awhile so the others probably continued to the Temple. They certainly weren't in Dharmaville. EDIT: In the episode before last seasons finale, when Flock finally met up with the others on the beach in 2007, Richard told him that the rest of his people were at the temple. Anyway, I'm not convinced the Temple folk are an entirely distinct group (especially with the presence of tail section survivors), but that doesn't explain why the others are split as a group, one at the beach and one at the temple. But children were never seen with the group led by Ben and we knew the others had taken them. Same goes for Cindy. I guess we always knew they had to be somewhere, just not with Ben's group. If we'd thought about it more, we probably should have realized sooner that there was a separate group of others somewhere with the people they kidnapped.
im not following you. didnt cindy walk by with kids when jack was in the cage at bens camp before he did the surgery?
I have a feeling the key piece to this show is Desmond. I don't know how, but I think its all going to tie back to when Eloise said "The rules don't apply to you Desmond, your special" (something like that)
Spoiler Watch S04E11 "Cabin Fever" again. Christian tells Locke that he ~isn't Jacob but can speak on his behalf~... Is that a lie?
Spoiler Since Jacob died, can the guy in the black shirt take form of Jacob? Maybe it was smokey that told Hugo to take Sayid to the temple. Sayid could very well be smokey. It would be a clever way of Smokey infiltrating into the temple
^ Maybe I'm wrong...but I don't think smokey can be two different people at once and exist in two different places at the same time.
This is kind of obvious, but I guess we now know how Ben was saved by the Others after being shot as a boy.
Another interesting thing to me was how Hurley said nothing bad ever happens to him. This implies that not only was the future changed, but the past as well. Possibly because there was no external "force" driving them to the island. Yet they still managed to all be on the plane for the most part. So I guess there still is something at work, but with a different plan. I was trying to think if there were any other things that implied a character's past had changed. I guess another one is Shannon didn't come home with Boone.
What was the deal when the guy speaking the other language who didn't like the English language on his tongue...he cut his hand and stuck it in the healing water. And, his hand didn't appear to heal. They also said something before that about the water wasn't clear. Were those thrown in there to raise doubt about whether the water was healing at that time? Then, he told Jack there were risks in what they were going to do. What risks could there be if Sayid was going to die anyway if they didn't try to heal him? Then, they were clueless about whether it worked but it looked like Sayid's wounds were gone afterwards. I didn't even recall seeing a hole in his shirt and the blood on his shirt seemed gone when Jack was trying CPR. I'm left wondering if Sayid was actually dead and Jack doing CPR on him had a hand in him coming back...because remember Jack is the miracle guy who performed the miracle surgery in a previous season. I dunno...just trying to understand what was going on in that sequence. The temple dwellers seemed confused about the water clarity...almost as if they had never seen it like that before. And, obviously they didn't think it worked because Sayid didn't wake up immediately afterwards. It wasn't a normal healing they were used to from what it seemed.
I'm pretty sure that whole scene with Sayid, Jacob, and the new "Others" was to show Sayid becoming Jacob. Seems pretty obvious. Jacob tells Hurley that you need to do this and this to save Sayid. Japanese guy cuts his hand and puts it in the water to see if it heals. It doesn't. They tell Jack and friends that there are risks involved. Sayid struggles but is drowned in that water (Jacob could have possibly needed him to be in that water or something to take over Sayid's body). Wakes up 5 minutes later asking "Where am I?" I think it's pretty clear that Jacob is now in Sayid's body while the evil dude is in Locke's body. Sayid vs. Locke showdown this season!
I don't think smokey can be sayid. Remember he is not in locke's physical body. Locke's real body was on the beach, in the casket. Using that logic, he would not be able to inhibit sayids physical body which was on the ground, but rather only take the shape of his body. We don't know enough about jacobs power yet do he remains a possibility
Yes, but they weren't with Ben's group building the runway. They came to the Hydra to watch Juliet's trial.
