It wasn't really a scene. It was just images to look at while the credits rolled. I don't think it's significant. I thought the Christian scene made it pretty clear, "Everyone dies sometime. Some before you, some long after you." If they all died in the plane crash, that line wouldn't make any sense. In the context that the Island events took place in real life, it makes perfect sense.
Well I'm just throwing that theory out there and the reason why I think so many people, including a part of myself, think they COULD have been dead this whole time was because some of the things they threw in there at the end. Jack ending up at the same exact spot we saw him the first time with Vincent next to him (minus the suit of course) and the scene at the end where it shows the crash with no survivors
The other thing about that scene is that when Jack was walking through the bamboo forest, he passes one of his father's shoes. Only that now it was tattered and weathered instead of being new looking like it was in the pilot. And the other thing about the last images (not scene) was that you didn't see any bodies strewn across the beach either which is what happened to most of the passengers when it crashed. They were thrown out of the actual plane when it broke up, both in the front and tail sections.
That last "scene" has no bearing, it was just the creators giving a nice nod to where it all started. Jack's father flat out said that everything that happened on the island was real.
Haha well this is going to be my last post in here because LOST is done forever (finally!) and you guys are pretty much set in stone where you stand with the ending but here's a quote a got off of darkufo that sort of plays along with that theory I posted earlier... http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/all-roads-lead-here-end-recap-by.html#more
my interpretation of the final images of the wreckage was simply the production team breaking the fourth wall, and paying homage to the set pieces and location where they spent and dedicated their lives... and that these were the final closing credits to show respect to everyone who ever worked on that show. I'm not putting too much into how the plane wreckage plays into the overall story arc of the LOST series. but that's just me.
Whether it was real or not what would have happened if the MIB left. What was the point of the entire light thing.
Between that and the dialogue between Ben and Hurley, I don't know how they could have been more clear, without a big neon sign flashing -The Stuff On The Island Really Happened.
No its not possible. I didn't get to see the scene at the end due to the west coast news affiliate being idiots. From what I understand it showed the wreckage on its own. There wouldn't have been anyone else with it as everyone else was either dead or gone. Christian broke everything down and left no doubt as to the events on the island being real with the characters alive. The part he said about some people dying long after Jack is the most telling. Also Kate saying she missed Jack for so long is another blatant one. The third big one is Hurley telling Ben he was a great number two. Unless he was calling him a POS, this should indicate they spent a good amount of time together on the island. I think the biggest mystery I have now that the show's done is how so many people don't get this.
If they all died in the beginning, Aaron couldn't be born, Ji Yeon couldn't be conceived, none of the relationships would be formed, etc. Why would you go to heaven with a kid you never even conceived or a chick you never knew*? Why wouldn't Sayid be there with Nadia? Why would Jack be there with any of them in the end? It can't be because they were all on 815 (Desmond wasn't) - where were all the other passengers like Rose and Bernard? Why would Michael and Ana Lucia be locked out, Michael especially didn't do anything wrong pre-Island. There are plenty of things to hash out, and I agree that the wreckage credits make you wonder, but this is one question that they couldn't have made more definite. I think one reason it's so popular is that it was such a popular notion from the get go. No one likes seeing their theory crumble apart (Chron's Therese Odell turned into a table thumper this season and was way off base). One thing has hit me. So Eko had his fit and took his toys home with him at the start of S3. The producers say they had a 4 season arc for him. I personally believe that his abandoned story got merged in with Sayid (notice Sayid later had a super similar childhood flashback to Eko's, stepping into a "bad" role because his brother wouldn't do it....and Sayid never had a brother mentioned prior to this). But anyway, what I'm getting at --> Along with Eko's storyline, the church he and Charlie were building was abandoned. After last night, I'm wondering if they originally intended it to be finished and act as a precursor to the church "they created" to meet again. Plenty did get lost along the way (Ben's childhood girl Annie was supposed to "be important" according to producers in S3...and was never seen or mentioned again). But I'm very satisfied with the ending. Very Return of the King. And I've openly expected to be let down by the finale for the past 5 years. The journey was the point. I'm amazed that the ending was so satisfying. Didn't hurt that the writing and acting was off the charts. * unless said chick is Melissa Theuriau
So, did anybody call it? I sure didn't. A few years ago the Lost producers came out and in a rare show of candor, said the island was not "purgatory." I'm guessing they did this because a lot of fans were speculating this, and the producers simply didn't want them to think that any longer. I think they knew fans would not be happy with that explanation. Who wants to invest emotion in characters that are already dead? Well, this season they go ahead and created a separate time line that was in fact "purgatory" or some form of it. I didn't even consider that they would go in that direction because of how they seemed to be against it in the past. Anyway, that's just an aside. Personally I found much of the alt-timeline throughout the season to actually be pretty uninteresting, especially compared to what was happening on the island in the same episodes. I thought a lot of it was slow, contrived, and just seemed to carry the characters down the same paths we'd already seen them go before. However, I tolerated the "flash sideways" because I thought those stories were actually going somewhere, even if it was slowly. I was curious of how it was all going to come together. Then after a season of this, bam, they all just having the "awakening" and that's it for the alt-timeline. I mean, I'm satisfied with the conclusion, because I think in the end their had to exist some sort of "reunion" that was off the island. I'm just not sure if I liked the way they went about getting there with the alt timeline. I've read some similar criticisms in other reviews. So, it's not like the lack of answers is the only thing people are criticizing about the finale/season 6. Some people just simply never got into the alt-timeline in the first place, and then to top it off none of it was even real.
So I think my plan is going to be to do a rewatch of Season 6 and then to begin a full series rewatch once the DVD box set comes out in August.
If Jack had thought rationally, he didn't need to go after flocke and get himself stabbed. Flocke was human and wasn't going to destroy the human race. He could have taken off in the airplane and lived a nice life with Kate.. oh well.
Maybe, but if Jack had just gone back and put the "cork back in the bottle", would Smokey have gotten his powers back? I don't think Jack would have just let the Island "crumble to the sea" so soon after taking his oath.
Just because it happened on a higher plane of existence doesn't mean it wasn't real. Like Christian said, "I'm real. You're real. The people in the church are real. Everything is real." What happened in the purgatory side-flash was them getting to live out their ideal lives as a reward for what they went through. So in that way, they got the best of both worlds.
Lol, they didn't even show that picture on all broadcasts of the show. It was a throwaway background for the credits.
The dieing theory still works. The first and last episodes start and end with a close up of Jacks right eye. If he died in the instant between his eye opening and closing anything in between could have been an alternate reality. Everything could have taken place in the blink of an eye. So what he is wearing is irrelevant. Christian's explanation could still work. Desmond and Juliette are in the church, they could have died at a different time than those on the airplane. I just watched the opening and closing scenes again. Its interesting that Vincent is with him in both scenes. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion
