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Lost Season 6 (final season)

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  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UNmFYwqJrHA&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UNmFYwqJrHA&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

    This gave me the chills when I found this on Youtube.
     
  3. wakkoman

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    Strong parallels with Hinduism last night. The group in the church attained moksha.
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I've been looking at the concept of the Bardo

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo
     
  5. Dubious

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    I think Lost deals with the fundamental questions of life from which all religions and philosophies arise. And as with religion, you will see your own bias expressed.

    Was the stained glass window in the church behind Jack and Christian one of those multi-religion symbols compilations?

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  6. GRENDEL

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    I rather enjoyed it myself and thought it was a very strong ending.

    I thought the ending was pretty straightfoward too, kind of surprised so many people have read so many thing into parts of it, like the montage at the meaning something else.
     
  7. DCkid

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    Well, I'm not sure if it's blindly assuming when season 5 ends with a bomb exploding on the island and season 6 begins by showing you the island on the bottom of the ocean. They were clearly trying to push the viewer into that direction.

    I must admit some of the scenes this season has less of an impact on me because most of the evidence/theories pointed to their being two realities.

    For instance, when Jin and Sun died, I just assumed that when they reconciled the two timeless they would be reunited and raise their child, so I wasn't too sad about it. However, in reality, they both died with their kid growing up parent-less and Jin never even getting to hold her. The alt-timeline I think helped to lessen the blow, which is almost too depressing.

    So the more I think about it, I feel this was the best way to go about it. Not a cheesy happy ending, but not too sad either. A perfect balance.

    But still, the Jin and Sun thing is pretty damn depressing now. :(
     
  8. Cannonball

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    Very similar but it was only 6 images. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, whatever the wheel represents, and a yin yang symbol.
     
  9. Cannonball

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    So in the finale last night, did anybody notice they never showed them freeing Ben from the fallen tree? It went from Ben trapped to Jack confronting Flocke, commercial, the fight, Kate shoots Flocke and Ben is there.
     
  10. GRENDEL

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    yeah I mentioned that to my wife, oh well guess they probably just cut the part where they actually show him getting pull out.
     
  11. redefined

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    I am overseas right now and can't seem to watch the finale on hulu or abc.com because of international agreements. Is there any way I can watch it now or will I have to wait until I reach back home?
     
  12. wakkoman

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    tvshack.net
     
  13. Agent94

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    They didn't show Jack getting out of the glow hole either.
     
  14. Rasselas

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    I wrote an extended analysis/thoughts/recap this morning.

    It's long, so here's the first part:

    Struggling with the Lost Finale? So are We. This Will Help.

    Since way back when in Season 1, Jack and Locke have fought this battle: Man of Science vs. Man of Faith. Say what you want about the show's continuity, but you must, at least, give the writers this: that theme has never wavered, ever. Science vs. Faith. Open the hatch? Press the button? Return to the island? Detonate the bomb?

    So it's only fitting, I suppose, that after watching the finale last night, I'm struggling with my own internal battle: Jack vs. Locke. Science vs. Faith. Did the show make sense? Does any of this **** hang together? Was I misled for the last six years?

    On an emotional level I want to love the finale--it felt right--but my inner-Jack Sheppard rebels.

    Here's what Jack is saying:

    Wait a second. You call those answers?!? Okay, Mr. Jacob or Smoke Monster or C.J. Cregg, maybe I missed an episode (I didn't), but did you ever answer, oh, I dunno:

    Wait, were they dead the whole time? If so, it's the biggest cop-out since Pam's dream in Dallas.
    What ever happened to something we spent, like, 189 episodes on, the golden child, Walt? Wasn't he the key to the galaxy or whatever?
    Or was that Aaron?
    What's the deal with that four-toed statue, just some toe fungus?
    Egyptian temple?
    Why was Dharma food still being dropped years after Dharma was exterminated by Ben?
    Yeah, so those Hurley-lottery numbers. WTF, dude?
    Jacob has the power to see the future (he must, or else why would he "touch" Kate and Sawyer when they were little kids, assuming he's not a pedophile?), but he can't figure out that Ben will stab him?
    Why did Christian Sheppard know every frickin' character on the show, off-island? At one point in Season 2, I was convinced that I would learn that Christian Sheppard was my real father.
    Oh, and I have other nitpicks. Lots of them. Here's just a small one. Remember how in the beginning, Jack was so concerned with the health and welfare of all "the survivors?" Well who, besides our top-billed characters, actually, you know, survived? There were 48(ish) survivors of the original plane crash. After all the drama in Season 1 about foraging for water, building huts, making a village, all that ****, almost everyone's dead. Jack--and the writers--never really bothered to acknowledge this. When Jack said "Live together, or die alone," he neglected to mention a Secret Option C: almost everyone will end up dying together.
    And on and on and on.

    Happily, I also have an inner-Locke.

    This part of me has swallowed the kool-aid. Damn near choked on it. The past few weeks I've been a little Lost-obsessed. I rewatched key episodes. I reread synopses. I'm not proud to say that I even purchased a soundtrack. This part of me wanted to love the finale.

    And I think, somehow, I do.

    Here's why.

    First, the whole "Were they dead the whole time?" question. If the writers pulled that little stunt, I'd be the first to pluck their eyeballs with a Dharma-dropped fork. But that's not the case. Can't be.

    The flash-sideways--okay, the afterlife--featured characters like Ben, Desmond, Miles et al. It's pretty simple. The original passengers on Oceanic Flight 815 had never met these dudes, pre-crash. Then the writers make it even clearer. Christian tells Jack (paraphrasing), "Some died before you, some died after you." In other words: they didn't all die together on the plane. Hurley tells Ben, "You were a great #2!" suggesting they spent plenty of time together as an unlikely Island-Guardian-Buddy-Duo.

    The crash happened. The island happened. Everything actually happened, even the important **** like Hurley starting a bus and Sawyer playing ping-pong. The hatch, Dharma, the freighter, all of this was real. No way to read it otherwise.

    The flash-sideways, on the other hand, exist only in a world where time has no meaning. Maybe Kate lived another 50 years after leaving the island, but there she is in the afterlife.

    Inner-Jack cuts in...

    Wait! But that's sort of a cheat, right? The flash-sideways weren't even introduced until Season 6, so it's not really a "mystery" that we've given a damn about until now, and it doesn't do squat to explaining the island! It has nothing to do with the bomb working or not working, it's unrelated to the action on the island, and it was all misdirection.

    Maybe. I can see that argument. It has merit. The big reveal of the afterlife, if I'm reading all this correctly, doesn't really explain anything except the flash-sideways, which are purely a Season 6 construct. It's true. It doesn't explain anything about the island at all.

    But here's the great thing. And here's where my inner-Locke gets a gleam in his eye and creepily sticks an orange in his mouth.

    We have all the answers we need. Really. We do... [con't]

    (Here's the rest of it: http://theplunge.com/blog/Struggling-with-the-Lost-Finale-So-are-We.-This-Will-Help.-.html
     
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    ^ all of that was pretty clear on a first viewing, but there's gonna be tons that argue that they were all dead on the island the whole time and that they were right the whole time.
     
  16. BigSherv

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    How the hell did they get that tree off of Ben???
     
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    You could see Miles(?) using a branch for leverage as they cut away from the scene. Kinda weak that they made such a big deal out of it.
     
  18. ItsMyFault

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    I think when the island was having earthquakes... the tree loosened up and then Miles used something to push it enough so that Ben could get out (but they didn't really show most of it).
     
  19. Dave_78

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    I had to watch it twice to fully understand the ending as well as understand what was and was not answered but overall I think it was awesome. Much better ending than I ever expected.

    I think some fans have grown to look for things to nitpick so much that they are being ridiculous. Enjoy the show.
     
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  20. Rasselas

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    Totally agree.
     

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