This is a complete shot in the dark but when Desmond and hurley were at mr clucks. Did anyone else notice that his number was 42? I have reason to believe he is a candidate becuz I think there are two lists of candidates check lostpedia. I believe there is one for the MIB and Jacob. Just a shot in the dark...
Did you guys catch that when locke was talking to kate, he said "we need everyone back: Jack, Hurley, and SUN" He didnt mention Jin. Could that mean that Sun is the candidate and not Jin?
He's stated before (as have other characters) that he didn't know which Kwon was the candidate. I don't think anything has changed. Most likely, he was just referring to those that were in that group which didn't include Jin.
I think that was one of the more obvious "numbers" references. Both lists were Jacob's. It was Jacob's cave and it was Jacob's lighthouse. If the candidates are supposed to be people who would replace Jacob, I don't know why MIB would need a list. He doesn't have any interest in anyone replacing Jacob so it doesn't make sense that he'd have a list of his own candidates.
Spoiler Why did Desmond run over Locke in the alternate reality? Desmond is acting like Jacob alternate world
Not sure that's a spoiler at this point. It would seem that he's trying to make Alt. Locke remember. Charlie made Desmond remember and put him on a path that made him remember even more. Afterwards, Desmond asked Minkowski to get him a copy of the flight manifest. I think Desmond is trying to make them all remember. He intentionally sought out Hurley (acting like he was just buying chicken) and put him on a path that made him remember. I think he's doing the same with Locke. I don't remember, but at the very end of the closeup on Locke's face after the crash, there might have been a moment of realization on his face.
You know, I swear that the producers said that the island wasn't purgatory. Maybe it's not in the sense that they died in the plane crash and were in limbo. They're alive and the island may not be purgatory for them, but it sure sounds like it is for a lot of dead people.
I thought it was Desmond (since he has the same consciousness in both timelines) getting back at Locke. In the real timeline he still thought Locke was Locke, so why not get revenge on him in the worst way. I was hoping that the conversation Desmond had with Smokey would have lots of hidden meaning, but I think it was just a short foreshadowing of Locke doing what he would do minutes later.
Ilana should have paid more attention in Dynamite class. There is no doubt Flocke is evil incarnate now. There is no perspective where throwing an innocent man down a well, together with the expressions Flocke had on his face during their conversation, could be anything but evil. Why does Marvin Candle look exactly as old as he did thirty years ago?!?! Also, what a tease when Richard mentioned Jacob had told him exactly what the Island was but then didn't say what it was.
I think it's more that both consciousness(es?) are aware of the other - no one else has this going for them. He's "let go" of his life in both realities and surrendered himself to fate. Kind of interesting. Moneyball question - say everybody "becomes aware"....then what? What would they do? Or....is this a way of "backing up" timeline A so that if they sacrifice themselves to stop Smokey, they can still live out their happy ending in the other reality? I don't believe Smokey - that wasn't Jacob's cave. Above ground/below ground symbolism. Nice neat orderly list of names vs chaotic messy scribbling. That was Smokey's cave, duplicating Jacob's list...and he's intent on rubbing all the names out. Speaking of, he definitely took special glee in seeing Jack served up to him last night. Looks like he also is putting his money on #23 for the Jacob replacement. No need to use the spoiler button if you're just talking about last night's show. Also, please give folks a head's up about what your spoiler button entails - spoiler-only posts are landmines. No way to tell if it's just speculation (as in your case), or someone leaking a Mega spoiler on how the show ends. It makes me more curious what the tally of folks are that got stuck like Michael. We know why Libby hasn't seen Hurley.....but why did Isabella pop up for Richard? Also - Christian was one of the voices used in the whispers in the first half of the show....but he died in Australia. We saw what he told him (wine bottle / cork) a few episodes ago.
And Hurley was visited by Anna Lucia in LA. She's one you would have thought would be stuck on the island.
I think Desmond hitting Locke is putting him on a path to remembering...right after he goes to the hospital and Jack gets assigned as his doctor.
I think this is right. Just after the EM-shock-treatment, Desmond suddenly was happy to do whatever Widmore wanted (as he did as errand-boy for Widmore). He also became the care-free "I'm happy with no worries" Desmond that he was in the alternate reality - demonstrated by just going along with Sayid, happily being tied up, his talk with Locke, etc.
And yet he still has full memory of all his time on the island? (namely his time in the hatch, him remembering Sayid and Locke, him remembering that Widmore told him that he had a job to do). I think its not that they simply switched places, but its that both Desmonds are now simply aware of both existences. Both of them know about the other. Both of them know that the island exists and both of them remember their full life up to that point (along with the alt desmond knowing he has a son named charlie). The only question is whether or not island desmond knows something more than just his past time on the island, his current life with Penny, and his alternate life... like does he know what's in store for everybody and his ultimate fate? He sure does act like he does.
that's a lot of spoiler rules! I just want to talk about LOST. how about that preview for next week's episode after Everybody Loves Hugo aired?
Last night, I kind of glossed over that fact that in the alt. time line, Desmond said he had a son named Charlie. I thought "Oh, he has a son named Charlie in this time line too." But that's wrong because he just met Penny and wasn't in any other relationship, devoting his life to being Widmore's right hand man. I agree that it's not simply the two Desmond's switching bodies. The Locke monster asked him if he knew who his was and Desmond identified him as Locke (knowing nothing about the monster). The alt. time line Desmond wouldn't have known who Locke was. So I think you're on the right track. The two Desmond's share one collective set of memories and maybe even one consciousness.
