Right! But its physically still there, it hasn't disappeared? I don't know these LOST series have got me crazy!
See, the alternate timeline currently isn't making much sense to me. Ben got shot in that timeline while on the island (pre-bomb) and was taken to the temple for healing. Yet somehow he's just a regular school teacher in the future? You'd think an experience like that would yield a different result or something. I'm interested in knowing what in the hell actually happened when that bomb went off. If it destroyed the island, how did Ben and his father get off?
well in a convulted way ben was never shot in the ALT timeline because the plane never crashes so sayid and co never were on the island to go back in time to shoot ben and all. i dont think jughead necessarily worked in the past but something else caused the island to sink and this was after ben and his father left the island. from that episode it sounded like his dad left the island willingly/wanted to leave the island so they didnt know it was destroyed/sunk
Yes. We do not know yet the why or when this alternate time line split from the one we've been watching for 6 years. I don't think the bomb is the reason either. It's very possible, if not probable, that in the alt. time line, the Losties were never on the island in 1977 and Sayid never shot Ben.
Did anyone else get a book of Job feeling from the exact Jacob and the MIB had? Jacob telling him that he'd keep bringing people to prove him wrong, whole thing was very similar to the "bet" God and Satan have in that book of the Bible.
Except god wins the bet, jacob sais everyone was dead, so it would appear that he is losing the bet. So its different in that sense
I guess we aren't sure now, but all theories before last episode were that Jacob and MIB were watching The Black Rock sailing in, Jacob had brought it to the Island. That assumption now changes unless Jacob whipped up a storm... there was also a question of the timeline of 1845( when the ship was reported to have set sail from Portsmouth England) and the 1867 date. some are saying they only used 1867 'cause that's when dynamite was invented/patented and they were correcting a previous continuity error. now they have created another one.
Sounds good to me. Maybe one of them has to be a constant at all times. The person who takes Jacob's place. . . i think will probably be someone who is bitter toward MiB Rocket River
It was as if Nestor/Richard took the Benry episode two weeks back as a personal challenge. I still love how the Jacob Sweepstakes are wide open: Jack the obvious choice Hurley the purest, noblest soul of all of them Sun as part of a Sun-Jin tandem to replace Jacob-MIB Locke v3.0 etc Even if I take the tsunami wave argument in regards to the statue, I have to say that it felt like a cheap, forced write-away explanation for the statue. That there was no apparent deeper meaning/effect to the shattering...I felt really let down. If the pregnancy issue gets written off like that...would not be happy. You can't build something up all series just to explain it away quickly with no actual importance attached. Interesting to me: now that we see that Jacob's touch transfers a gift (not necessarily anointing a candidate)....should we note that Hurley was talking to the dead before being touched in the cab? Enjoyed Special Forces Ninja Chuck Norris Jacob. Neat to see such a change from his normal uber-zen demeanor. I guess that attempt led him to look for candidates. There's definitely something very off with Timeline X. Unless the writers are just blowing it left and right, there are a lot incongruities. Jacob not visiting Sawyer, despite that visit happening pre-Jughead in Timeline A, for one. And are both Jacob and Smokey taken out in Timeline X? If Smokey got free (no cork).....there doesn't seem to be any doomsday attached. The further along we go, the less I expect to see a crossover (despite the Jack and Desmond transient moments).
Spoiler I've heard an interesting theory (and this is pure conjecture). Timeline X is not from the bomb, but from MiB or Jacob giving Losties what they wanted, Sayid wanted that chick, but can't have her because she's married to his brother, Ben wanted Alex, but can't be her Dad, just her teacher, etc. Whereas those who don't seem to have taken the deal from MiB seem to be finding happiness in timeline X (Kate learns to be nice but is still on the run, Jack seems like he's a good dad but still has a dead father and a mess to clean up, etc.).
I think the writers are now under pressure to wrap the more important parts of the mystery first since the show's almost done. Either that, or to truly explain the shattering of the statue would've required more episodes/different story. Martial arts Jacob was great. Also, he was much more raw/forceful/emotional whereas as now he's more calm/'wise'. This change in character in addition to his "a-ha!" (when Halpert suggests intervention as a policy since the MiB would step in all the time) doesn't really follow the model of a perfect/omniscient god.
But we wouldn't have an alternate timeline if the plane hadn't crashed and the passengers hadn't gone back in time to set of a bomb. THE MIND HAS BEEN BOGGLED
Of course you can. We were led to believe that the alt time line is what would have happened if the plan to detonate the bomb worked. But that's not going to be the case. I think that one of the big reveals is going to be what actually changed to make the alt time line turn out the way it did.
twhy77 and Shady, I'd like to see what you're saying, but I'm not going to open a non-prefaced spoiler button. I don't know if you've got a real spoiler in there (I won't want to read it) or just some discussion (I would want to read). If you wouldn't mind, please label them somehow. They've been dropping numerous hints that we shouldn't believe Jacob is GOD and MIB is "THE Devil" Anubis/Horus, God/Satan, Apollo/Cerebrus, all of the allegory nods are contextual clues...not literal ones. Jacob isn't Jesus. Both are apparently demi-gods; mortal men who were ascended to their current status. Right, divergent timelines. It COULD be the case with some explanations...but I agree that the number of apparent plot holes have been uncharacteristic. And they do love their twists.
In Eric-Emmanuel Schmitt's "The Visitor", he talks through Freud, and basically talks about how "If God is good, and wants good, why did he create the world, knowing that it wouldn't be good (reference to holocaust)" ; the idea is that when God created the world, he renounced to all of his powers of modifying it later on. This makes me think about how Jacob can't/refuses to influence people but believes everyone has good in them. And Richard, who is allowed to talk across Jacob, makes me think of Jesus/Moses who could communicate with God and reach out with the people. It's kind of hard to explain this religion stuff in english for me, I hope you guys understood what I was trying to say.
