Except it's not a flash forward, it's a "flash sideways" as the producers have dubbed it. This brings me to a question I have: So these "flash sideways" are presumably what would happen if they destroyed the electromagnetic energy that brought them to the island in the first place, and presumably if Jacob had never had contact with them and altered their lives. So in this "sideways", Locke is back in the wheelchair. So, we're led to assume that he still had that confrontation with his father and got pushed out of the window. But if that happened, was Jacob still there to bring him back to life? During the Jacob flashbacks, it sure looked like Locke died and didn't open his eyes and start breathing again until Jacob touched him. But then again, Helen was still there, so she never left him because of his obsession with his father. So maybe he got his spinal injury in a different accident.
At the least, Jacob visited Sawyer in the other reality as well since his parents were killed before the events of the season 5 finale. That might be true for kate as well but we don't know. Helen is still there and makes a comment about inviting john's father to the wedding. This could suggest that John lost the use of his legs in some other way. Hard to figure out because his dad was still a bad guy up to when the bomb exploded in the 70s.
4 star episode, really made up for last week's flat one. Plenty to chew on: Ben surviving Jughead Kate not listed on the wall (or at least not shown) We've technically got 3 Kwons to choose from Maybe Smokey wants to kill off all the candidates so he can be free, but baby Jacob said he can't kill HIM. Not THEM. Ben lied about killing Jacob, but freely offered up that he killed Locke. Those weren't the Adam and Eve stones, but they sure alluded to them I think this is the case, and that Locke's dad is invited to the wedding seems to further point to a different reason for his being in a chair.
Technically, Ben didn't kill Jacob. He weakened him, but the one who finished him off was Flocke. I always wondered how Flocke could kick Jacob into the fire if he wasn't able to kill him according to the rules
Ditto, it's still a false reality to me, and all the coincidences aren't accomplishing anything. A better episode, but what's with all the recap shots, like 4-5 minutes overall. In the end, I feel like they're dragging out what will be recapped in probably 15 minutes of the next summary episode.
Which would again bring up the theme of destiny as well as course correction related to time travel and altering the past. I'm reminded of Desmond's episode when we first meet Eloise Hawking. In that episode, a man wearing red shoes dies in a construction accident. She notes that she knew he would die and that if that accident had been prevented, he would have been hit by a taxi the next day or broken his neck in the shower if he'd been warned about the taxi. It seems like it was Locke's inevitable fate that he would end up in a wheelchair. I'm wondering if this will come into play later in the season. If it really was the losties fate to go to the island, course correction could still ensure that the "sideways" losties end up there (even though it's on the bottom of the ocean).
Other notable numbers: 70 - Faraday 90 - Troup (Gary Troup, the fictional author who was sucked into the turbine in "Pilot") 14? - Lewis 195 - Pace 313 - Littleton ??? - Goodspeed ??? - Pickett (Other we saw at the Hydra island. His wife was the one shot on Desmond's boat. Killed by Juliet when Kate, Sawyer, and Karl were escaping to the main island)
I got the list here: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob's_Wall And they got them form the stills here: http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/gallery/gaaa93d0bdd4ed31790231253080ed7f3/
I believe when young Jacob said he can't kill him he was referring to Richard. You can see my long explanation here. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5078721&postcount=215 I also believe that the stones weren't representative of Adam and Eve, but more of good and evil. You saw he threw the white stone, because that represents his opposite.
It still feels like this whole thing could be wrapped up in a 2 hour episode and they are unnecessarily dragging this thing out. They could have probably done with one less season...unless huge things start to happen in these final episodes. I feel like half my time spent watching this show is "lost".
The writer of the Lost Rewatch Column off of Chud.com makes a good point in that the characters are doing things that matter to them. Sure they can just sit there and have questions answered about the mythology of the island, but their character doesn't really care what Smokey is, they would rather do things like find Sun or find Aaron, because those are the things that drive them. We as an audience feel like things are happening slowly, because we want answers, but its actually just good storytelling.
Should be ghost/soul of Jacob, as a young boy. Clothes are the same. Devil's argument, if Smokey wasn't lying and Jacob brought the characters to the Island, and now he wasn't around to 'touch' their lives....maybe they won't be. I see a few potential ways they could go: 1. Timeline X characters go to the island (but why? how? They already passed over the sunk Island, and there's no one to bring them in) and act as the cavalry 2. Timeline X is the happy ending the real characters don't get to realize. Their road is sacrifice, while the X-ers are redeemed. 3. The Jack neck wound on the plane and Desmond "cameo" are hinting at a re-convergence of the timelines. Sort of the Fringe theory. And thanks for the Easter Egg names! I found Littleton to be an interesting one. I can get behind this. Absolutely. What I was getting at, past that, was: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_And_Eve ...something long speculated to be part of how the show ends. That Jack would become Jacob had been debated as far back as season 3, but now we could consider that two characters will "shuffle off this mortal coil" and restore the balance Jacob and Smokey maintained.
No. We know Smokey is Flocke and Flocke is clearly MIB. The mention of the loophole being the most obvious clue. Also, MIB was there when the Black Rock landed and he told Richard that it was "good to see him out of those chains" indicating he was on the Black Rock, a slave ship. I think it just means he can't change NOW, as if killing Jacob now prevents him from taking other forms. EDIT: This was my 10,000th post.
