Maybe half but they already did that with Jack and that chick. Feel like it would be recycling the same plot turn. I think since we know Widmore has some kind of familiarity with Daniel's mom and bc of what what Daniel said about the woman that held him at gun point that the chick is his Mom. I wonder if she eventually recognized her son as the man that claimed to be a time traveler all those years ago. They did a good job not showing that widmore and Daniel ever coming into contact at the camp but if they did, it would explain why he funded Daniel's research. I'm not putting a spoiler tag. If people haven't seen the latest episode, they are not going to click on this thread.
Regarding Desmond's delay in remembering Faraday (my long-winded and probably wrong theory): I believe there are two "time bubbles" going on right now. First you have The One and Only Timeline, which is the normal flow of time. Everyone in the world (universe?) is on this normal flow, minus the island and people on it. Time X is a bubble around just the island. Time Y is a bubble around the plane crash survivors + freighter folk + the Others who came to the island (like Juliet). Before the donkey wheel release of time displacement, the island's time (Time X) flowed at the same speed as the rest of the world (unlike, say, Narnia), but at a different, STABLE point on the overall timeline. However, when Ben did his magic, the island starting hopping around, jumping to different points on the One and Only Timeline. My theory is around Time Y, the bubble around just the survivors. We know there is a Time Y because the survivors aren't on Time X, or they would vanish when jumping to a point in time before the crash. (The island's original inhabitants are somehow on Time X.) Furthermore, as Juliet mentioned, whatever is on the individual jumps with them, as part of their "bubble". My theory is that Time Y is also jumping from time point to time point on the One and Only Timeline, like Time X is, but independently from Time X. (The survivors can interact with the island because they and the island are on the same plane of existence -- but the points on the timeline are different). So, Richard Alpert may be in the 1950s talking to John Locke, but Locke is actually in 2047 or something. And that last point is where the distinction comes in: Everyone is assuming that the survivors are following the One and Only Timeline, much like the rest of the world is. What if they're not? So, getting back to Desmond: When Faraday meets Desmond at the hatch, the viewers of the show are confused why Desmond suddenly remembered Faraday's message after 3 years off the island. This is because everyone is assuming that the survivors are following the normal flow of The One and Only Timeline. By the viewer's estimation, Faraday meets Desmond a few hours/days after the O6 leave the island. But this is all wrong. When Desmond meets Faraday, the island (Time X) jumped to early 2000, but the survivors also jumped... to 2007, 3 years after the O6 left the island. Thus, when Faraday talks to Desmond at the hatch, and Faraday is in 2007, Desmond suddenly remembers in 2007, because that is where the universe was on the One and Only Timeline at that point. Got all that?
The survivors didn't jump at all. In last nights episode, they showed the clip of Desmond's gf giving birth which was obviously before he remembered fariday telling him to go to oxford. If the survivors jumped, there would be no scenes to show of them before they jumped. It only seems like they are happening at the same time because of the way it's edited.
Good episode tonight! Although nothing spectacular in terms of lots of revelations and questions answered, the show did give us a couple of key interest points, I thought. Spoiler Jin somehow survived the freighter explosion and has now been captured by Rousseau's exploration team. The same team, if I remember correctly, was responding to a distress call and crashed onto the island 16 some odd years ago. Something to do with the Black Rock I think. Also, it will be interesting to see what Sun plans to do in her confrontation with Ben at the marina. It looks like the whole gang is in one place minus one incarcerated lottery winner.
Yeah, I couldn't remember if they showed it or not. On one hand, you'd expect her to keep Aaron with her. If somebody entrusts you with their child, are you just going to pawn them off on somebody else? On the other hand, would she really take Aaron with her is she was going off to kill Ben. I guess the answer is yes.
interesting episode nothing too "wow" worthy in my books. it was pretty obvious that it was Rousseau at the end. the only thing that intrigues me are the people that were in the boat. that looked to have taken place in the "present" time since the camp was there but demolished. so where and who are they? also is jin skipping the same as the rest of the crew? i think he is but he could be differently since he was on the out in the water when the initial time/location skip occurred. next week looks interesting enough though.
It would make sense that Jin is skipping as well. How else would he end up when Rousseau ended up on the island which should be 1988 (2004 - 16). The other survivors should be in the same time because they all seemed be in the same storm.
What if Ben can't die yet. Remember when Michael tried to kill himself and couldnt it was because the island was not done with him yet. If the island is not done with any of the Oceanic 5 plus Ben, then even if Sun pulls the trigger, Ben wont die, correct?
crazy that they already have something like that up...i really like how they are really trying to incorporate in all this stuff for shows now. And agree that Rousseau aging a lot, but i guess that had to be done considering the actresses you tried to find someone that is similar and could speak french the choices can be limited. the only thing is I thought Alex (the girl rousseau is pregnant with) is older than 16. (from what el toro said in previous post) unless she really isnt rousseau's child. as for the ben not being able to die it would be lame if the gun malfunctioned again on Sun chances are if she does shoot ben he would be just wounded and not be a fatal shot. or she may just miss now my question is that the oceanic 6 are 3 years in the future (2007 their time) now even though time is a very loose thing when it comes to the island what about the survivors on the island it seems like they are stuck in that phase of a few days/weeks after the freighter blew up? Also i dont think Aaron is the kid that they need to bring back...I think Ben knows he cant bring Aaron back and is trying to separate Kate from him because thats the only way he can bring her back and allow Aaron to be safe/not abandoned back in "civilization". I think the child he needs to bring back is Sun's child who was actually conceived on the island. You dont even see Sun's child or anything at all in the new episodes.
Man, if anything gives me a headache, it's the insane amount of "Easter Egg" and tie-in stuff they do. Now we've got the Ajira ("Island") Airlines teaser site. Ugh. I've only got so much time to invest in a TV show. Still - kudos for the absurd amount of thought that goes into LOST. It could be a serious 4-credit college course. I'm wondering if Benry's lawyer was meeting with Claire's mom in a case regarding Oceanic's settlement...does that make the case for Benry or for Widmore being a part of Oceanic? Abaddon's employer? The van "Canton Rainier" --> anagram for "Reincarnation" Though I don't believe Locke will suddenly come back to life upon return. I think he'll Obi Wan Kenobi and join Jacob's Ghost Cabin. Oh no with Miles' nosebleed! The canoe group? That's going to be a tough call until they make the reveal. Could be people we already know (including the returning Oc6), but definitely takes place during or after 2005. The boats DID resemble the ones used by Kate & Sawyer when they escaped the Hydra Island http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:3X07_KateSawyerBoat.jpg I assume Jin is hopping with the others, despite being separated. There was a rainstorm for both him and the canoeing group post-jump. If he wasn't in the initial jump, I don't think he could have drifted into the radius afterwards. When the Island "moved" you either joined in the ride or you got left behind. I half expected them to reveal he had been leaving in the Marshall Islands as a washed up homeless man the past 3 years. Nice that they didn't drag out his fate any longer - we all knew he'd show up somewhen. Team Rousseau doesn't really have a connection to the Black Rock. They arrived circa 1988 (not long after Benry's Dharma purge), and the Black Rock landed circa 1852. The only substantial connection established so far is that Rousseau was aware of the ship's location and contents and that they found it nearby their search for the radio tower. I'm excited that we finally get her story; one of the most anticipated reveals since S1. The crew crazy-sickness has been a massive mystery. I think Desmond may need to be included in that group as well. His rescue wasn't made public like the others, and that could be the only reason Benry hasn't sought him out as well. Frank's the only escapee that has a likely exemption.
The character is 16. The actress is now 20 (oddly enough born in 1988 just like the character). She was 17 when she started playing the character. No spoiler because it's just my theory. If I had to guess, I think the islanders are going to leap forward in time to 2007 and that's when the O6 will return to the island and join up with them. What would be 3 years for the O6 will be a few weeks or a month for the islanders. This is why there's a small window for the O6 to get back. Ben and Ms. Hawking were able to calculate when the islanders would appear in their time line and for how long and that's the only time the O6 can get back and sync up with them. I don't think that's the case for the simple fact that Sun didn't bring her baby with her and there's a short window and it'd be hard to go back to Korea and get to the island within that time frame. But that does bring up a good question. If it's impossible to go back to Korea, Sun would have to abandon her child to go back to the island. How in the hell are they going to convince her to do that? Because of Jin? I don't know. Maybe you're right and they make a pit stop in Korea to pick up Ji Yeon.
I think she passed for 16, I don't think there's any reason to think she isn't Rousseau's kid. As in the Others? The ones at the Temple and with Richard? We've got no idea what's going on with them, though they could *possibly* have been the ones with the outriggers. But, the more I think about it, the more I think the Oc6 were the ones that went to the camp in the future with Ajira water bottles. Could explain their extremely poor shooting, just trying to get their attention. Aaron needs to go back. And probably Sun's daughter as well, but definitely Aaron. A good question is whether Walt needs to return.
i am not sure if walt needs to michael came back to help because he still had a job to do on the freighter but i think it would have been made an issue for both of them to come back as soon as they left the island. though i think they can write walt back into the script now...they couldnt account for his natural development in life when the show only 3 months has passed. even in the episode where michael tries to go see him they show another actor real briefly....the one episode where he made a cameo in locke's vision locke said he looked older....maybe now since its years in the future in LA they could bring him back to, but i dont think he is needed.
Honestly, I was just too lazy to search or the thread and was waiting for somebody to bump it. Cool to see the smoke monster again and see what the "illness" Danielle mentioned was. Have we see Ruins on the island before? We saw that things on the island are pretty grim. Charlotte dies and everybody is starting to feel similar symptoms. But it looks like they've still got some jumping left to do. Daniel still has to impersonate a worker at the Orchid and tell a young Charlotte not to come back to the island. Now, is the island jumping because the O6 left or because Ben moved the island instead of Locke. Up until now, we've been led to believe it was the former but Christian kind of suggested it was the latter. Next week, we may see the encounters Locke had with the O6 of the island and see how he died. I'm guessing Locke didn't seek out Sun off the island and she never ran into him. I'm still wondering if she's going to abandon Ji Yeon to go back to the island. They kind of made it sound like they could send a few back to the island now and a few back later. But the preview had a clip of Hurley and it makes me think that they are indeed going to all go back together.
