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LOST: Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ryan_98, Jan 19, 2009.

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  1. Dubious

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    Richard's a sort of liason - walks among us but is not one of us. My guess is he was around with the Egyptian group when he crossed over.


    That explains the permanent eye-liner tattoos
     
  2. Rocket River

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    EMJohn

    Do you think the 'chronal energy' escaping the hatch into the ground
    needed to be released every so many second . . . affects the baby making process
    I think it will be interesting to see how the baby process is from 1977 on
    [I wonder if the babies were more vunerable to the timeshifting stuff that killed
    Charlotte . . .the energy on a low level effecting them]
    It is a stretch and a R.R. Theory.

    I think the others were self-propagating up until this point
    [I also think they were indoctrinate folx as well]

    QUESTION: Ben is taking into the temple - what do you think was done to him?
    What he saw. . . cause it 'took his innocence'

    Also . . .I still think Richard is another 'Smoke Monster'

    Rocket River
     
  3. VesceySux

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    Yes, but WHY was flight 815 so off course in the first place before it crashed? Have we ever gotten an answer to that question?
     
  4. The_Yoyo

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    it may have been flying over the pacific from austrailia to LA and the island has been known to shift around places so maybe it was on course and the island shifted there pulled them in and then shifted around elsewhere?

    from at least hawking's formula the island was set to appear at a certain location which allowed Jack, Ben and the others to go back to the island.
     
  5. WhoMikeJames

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    If he isn't, why isn't he going to be in Season 6?
     
  6. Cannonball

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    This was covered in the first episode. Before Matt Parkman was taken by the smoke monster, he told Jack and Kate that 6 hours after takeoff they encountered some radio problems so they altered course and turned back towards Fiji. The crash happened 2 hours later. They were 1,000 miles off course.
     
  7. emjohn

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    I think there are a lot of plausible theories regarding the baby making problem, and I recognize that I lack the clairvoyance to have it figured out. Actually I love that about this show. BUT - the idea that the Incident (Jughead or Swan) or the 108 min "EM pressure valve" brought about the pregnancy issue is a good one.

    Why I don't personally subscribe to it:
    Radiation would cause either infertility or mutant births. The condition as presented is the "auto-immune" aggravated response late in pregnancy. AI miscarriages do happen, but usually early on. Scientifically, the LOST miscarriages aren't anything I know about, which puts them into the supernatural/science fiction bin for me. We also have Claire deliver to term, and Sun get pregnant on the Island and give birth off island. Both were present for the Swan radiation.

    One additional reason that I don't believe the Others were self-propogating (not to say they were infertile) - if they were, why would they have varied accents? Widmore and Hawking have British accents, while Richard has a perfect American one. Also, the aggressive kidnapping policy doesn't make a lot of sense if they could raise their own kids. But hey, we're going to find out in less than 20 episodes.

    Ben - I think what we're led to believe is that what happened to Ben is what happened to Rousseau's husband and team. They went under the temple, and emerged "changed." Seemingly connected to the Island's will, eager to murder Rousseau. Is it Smokey? An as of yet unrevealed happening within the Temple? Dunno. But my personal guess is that the miscarriages are a side effect.
     
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    As long as it doesn't turn out to be 150,000 years in the past, I'm cool with whatever explanations the Lost crew throws at us.
     
  9. rrj_gamz

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    I liked the daniel episode...lots of stuff that liked, but you know widmore being his dad..crazy...
     
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    I'm surprised at how many people were shocked by this revelation. I almost expected it.
     
  11. mateo

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    Next week's episode is "Richard-centric" so we're going to get a great story on his past, hopefully. Can't wait.
     
  12. emjohn

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    Thanks for the spoiler. There are tags for that.
     
  13. bobrek

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    Why is that a spoiler?
     
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    Just saying, it's not official yet, like many things on the island. Mb Locke's demise had an "out" but so does Dan, if a bit more exotic. Mb he doesn't survive, but there's still room for it.


    Noted. Thanks... ok, so we have no idea of their origin then, aside from the usual speculation, right?


    :rolleyes: Maybe you're right, and at this point it's just another "we really can't say yet who's the bad guy" sort of thing, but given what we know... I'm leaning towards "she seems like her motives are more selfish than not, and the extent that she goes to seem to implicate her as a bad person." So yes, you're right... maybe in the long run we'll see it was for the greater good... but seems a long way to go to make sure he dies and doesn't save them. All for what... to let him learn astrophysics and get him to decipher Einstein's theory and make the little book of formulae and obtain it? Otherwise, why involve him at all. Perhaps that is a good enough reason and getting that book while keeping him from interfering further is the goal.



    Just saying, it's not official yet, like many things on the island. Mb Locke's demise had an "out" but so does Dan, if a bit more exotic. Mb he doesn't survive, but there's still room for it.


    Noted. Thanks... ok, so we have no idea of their origin then, aside from the usual speculation, right?


    This one is the type of stuff that makes plots like this a bit much, imo. Which came first... if that happened, then unhappened, did that make it not happen the first time sorta stuff. Of course, maybe the h-bomb never would have detonated for other reasons, and he just came back and "made sure". Again, who knows I guess, but ugh.


    That said, it's been a great season, and it's getting better here at the end, if they just keep things "real."

    Nice analysis and good points all, Canonball, thanks.
     
  15. Cannonball

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    If what Mateo said is correct, then we should have more background next week.
     
  16. mateo

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    I cant see how this is even remotely a spoiler. Name one secret I gave away.
     
  17. Cannonball

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    Personally, I don't think it's a spoiler either. It's not like any plot has been given away. But some people don't want to know ANYTHING about the next episode. They don't even watch the preview at the end of the episode. So letting them know who the focus is going to be on pisses them off because they don't even want to know that much.
     
  18. Dave_78

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    Strangely enough, he has the eye-liner stuff in The Dark Knight too. My gf at the time pointed it out when we watched it at the theater.
     
  19. Dubious

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    It is often commented that Carbonell's eyelashes appear rather dark, as if one had applied too much eyeliner or mascara. Interviews with both Carbonell and the producers of Lost have stated that his eyes are one of his physical traits, and completely unaided by any form of makeup.


    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=4467145
     
  20. peleincubus

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    just watched it. nuts

    cant fathom a tv show could have such an in depth story.
     

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