My DVR ran out of space as the smoke started to come out of that grid of holes. I was upset. Finished it just now and loved it. It was cool seeing that same creature that we saw as a huge statue scribed on the wall. Alex is as hot as ever.
man that was a ridiculously great episode my egyptian history is a bit rusty but was that a glyph of Anubis and what I assume is a depiction of the "smoke monster" as like a pet right above the grid holes? I know a few episodes back when they showed a glimpse of the statue from behind was anubis one of the possibilities? I am curious to see what the island has in store for Ben, clearly it wants him to do something else otherwise it would have killed him off then. Also I know why now that Ben doesnt remember Sayid shooting him when he was captured and kept prisoner but the picture that Lupitis and Sun show Ben of the Dharma crew, wasnt that in Ben's house? Wouldnt have seen it before and recognized at least Kate and Jack when he kept them both hostage? As for the people who are "in charge" on the other island asking Lupitis the question that he didnt know the answer to I think they may have been widemore's people, new "others" or maybe the descendents of the original others that were loyal to widemore when he was in charge. If Lupitis came from the main island would that mean that the statue is on the second island? Which dharma stations were on the second island? Was it just the main station where Jack/Kate were being held at? god i love this show and the fact that there hasnt been very few "filler" type episodes with its remaining episode timeline makes each one so intensely packed.
I think someone mentioned it may be Horus, another one of the Egyptian deities, since it also correlates to Horace who is part of the Dharma Initiative in the 70s.
i thought horus had a head of a bird and anubis had a head of a jackal from the glyph last night it looked like that the character had more of a jackal face.
Yeah, you may be right, but even with those reasons you gave I still think the writers messed that up. Every action Ben Takes is related to them and the island. So the losties would have to assume that him getting beat up has something to do with their situation. Wouldn't their natural curiosity kick in, since it most likely concerned them or someone they knew? Anyway, I'll forgive it. You know a show is good when minor details are the only thing that bother you.
I find myself cheering on Desmond & Penny - those two deserve happiness. Hopefully, as their minor flashbacks seem to indicate, Ben fails with his scheme for revenge.
The photo was in the game room. Ben could have seen it at some point but never made it a point to memorize the faces. The thing that gets me though is that Ben still returns to the Dharma Intiative as a double agent. Wouldn't he meet the Losties all over again? How much of his memory did they wipe? He may forget Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid but he should still remember Sawyer/LaFleur and Juliet. The other thing that didn't make sense is that Widmore said he's been looking for the island for 20 years. But Alex was born in 1988 and Widmore left when she was a little girl. Plus it was post-purge which would make it 1992 or later. That would mean Widmore has been off the island for closer to 15 years (or less) than 20.
It's not Set it's Anubis the god to protect the dead and bring them to the afterlife. Anubis was considered more the gatekeeper and ruler of the underworld, the "Guardian of the veil" (of "death"). Consequently, he was said to protect souls as they journeyed there, and thus be the patron of lost souls (and consequently orphans). Picture is way too big so I'm just gonna link it. Glyph From Last Night Anubis Also that was from underground last night. Anubis is the gatekeeper of the underworld and that is why he was shown underground. I believe the statue on the beach is neither Horus or Anubis, but Taweret (Taueret, Taurt, Toeris, Ipy, Ipet, Apet, Opet, Reret) - The Great Female - was the ancient Egyptian goddess of maternity and childbirth, protector of women and children. This picture here shows how similar the statue is with Taweret. Taweret is also in the Book of the Dead as a goddess who guided the dead into the afterlife. Another reason to think the statue is Taweret is the fact that the Others' women on the island could not give birth without the child dying. Thus maybe ancient people built the statue as a way appealing to Taweret to let their new borns live. Or perhaps Taweret resided over the children of ancients on the island, but for whatever reason the Others' pissed off the God of Taweret and that is the reason all of the new born children were dying. Also in Egyptian astronomy, Taweret was linked to the northern sky. In this role she was known as Nebetakhet, the Mistress of the Horizon. That is probably the reason for the placement the statue and is probably facing the north. This and many other things that are too many to list lead me to think the island is a gateway to the after life.
the more that I think about this the more that I think you are on the right track in your theory/assumption. there is still a lot of questions to be answered and i am sure new questions to be asked. to me one of the island's biggest mysteries is Richard Alpert. The ageless one who seems to be most in tune with the island yet he never is made the leader or wants to be the leader of the others. You would think that the others would naturally gravitate to have him lead because of his seemingly eternal youth. I mean Ben has known him for 25+ years on the island and Alpert looks younger than Ben does.
Yeah, I can't wait for the Alpert episode(s). I'm betting it will take multiple and will be in the final season.
NEW THEORY - and this is just my idea. I thought I had an Idea but your post clarified something for me Spoiler RICHARD ALPERT IS A CREATURE LIKE SMOKEY!!! He inhabits the top and seems to use the same form over and over. Smoky at the bottom uses different forms I have to refresh my Egyptian Mythology about Osirius, Seth, Horus and Anubis I thought Richard was the smoke creature . .. because he is the only one that does not age [I thought THE OTHERs didn't age but seeing Widmore age on the island made me think other wise] 'Christian' maybe either - Smokey or another creature similar [who is also JACOB] I am Leaning toward Christian/Jacob being another smoke creature -Osirus the Leader Rocket River I will review my Egyptian Mythology to flesh it out more. . .
The 1977 Picture was in the Processing Center near the dock, while Ben's house (and the Rec Room) are in the Barracks proper, which are more inland. Richard's true nature clearly is going to be a MEGA-reveal. He's a liason but not allowed to actually lead or communicate directly with Jacob. He's not like Christian, since he follows a linear timeline (vs Christian appearing to Locke in the FDW well in ancient BC). My guess? He's originally Egyptian, and he's resurrected (therefore ageless). The mural: I agree that it's Anubis and Smokey. The glyph-translators out there have a lot of work ahead given the amount of screenshots seen last night. The statue: my favorite candidate (as of today) is Bast: Cat, which means 4 toes on the rear paw (foot) Goddess of the Sun (Sun vs Moon Hatch mural) Called the Eye of Ra (LOST has eye imagery up the wazoo) The Greeks came in to occupy Egypt and declared her the sister of HORUS, and Horus they declared to be the same as their god APOLLO (Apollo Bars!) - Apollo being the god of medicine and healing (or Apollo could make you sick if you ticked him off). But I know better than to declare that I "know" anything. I just enjoy the puzzle of it all. I am very much convinced, though, that we can say that the Temple and Smokey's lair are not one and the same. Maybe partners, but they're yin and yang.
A lot of people believe the Richard Alpert represents the Egyptian god Ra. Ra's significance changed through the years during Egyptian worship as did many of their gods. But one thing that jumps out to me about this possible association has to deal with last nights episode and this tidbit: "Because no wind blows in the Underworld, Auf (Ra) had to rely on various unfriendly spirits and demons to help tow his barque along the river in the underworld. Auf's main job in the Underworld was to bring light to the souls of the dead as he passed through their realm." "He is the only god, apart from Osiris, who is definitely said to be not on the earth. Ra, it is said, is an aging god, still powerful, but too old to deal with his children any longer, so he has gone exclusively to the sky to watch over the world." If you think about how Richard brought young Ben into the cave to heal him he did those things above. He relied on an unfriendly spirit in the underworld to bring light to the dying soul of young Ben. Also the second quote shows him as just being someone to watch over everything because he is too old to deal with things. I'm a little skeptical about the Richard as Ra theory, but we will see soon enough.
If I am right then when John said "Welcome to the land of the living" then it would be a bit ironic, because it's in between the true land of the living and the afterlife. Can't wait. Great season so far.
The only thing is Bast is usually depicted with a Snake on her head and without anything in her hands. This picture is just too much evidence for me not to think the statue is anything other then Taweret. Who always has the two a ankh's in her hands and also has a crown that looks almost exactly like the crown depicted on the statue. But until they actually give us a frontal we will not know for sure.
well it could be but there are two islands maybe the smaller island where ajira folk landed was something similar to where that is the land of the living but the main island where the temple and smokey resides is purgatory/gateway to the underworld? like you i am not sure i just cant wait to see more and more episodes
Now that picture is pretty similar to Taweret to the glimpse of the back of the statue in the show, but one thing that I noticed that is different is that the statue in Lost is wearing a skirt/ nylon cloth thingy while the picture of taweret is not.
