I knew better when I wrote "greatest"....I try to avoid that word like the plague. I won't edit, but will here rephrase that to be most brilliant Sci Fi ever in TV/film.
Yes it is worth it, my girlfriend and I have been addicted to it or years. IMO the best show of the last 10 years (if not longer). No other show has kept me interested for such a long time.
Decent episode tonight, nothing crazy. Liked the insight into the temple at the very end. Also liked the writer's use of Hurley as a mouthpiece for the audience. I still think this goes down as a minor write-around to the plot hole Hurley voiced, but hey. They aren't infallible. Looking forward to next week's episode in the biggest way!
great episode, loved the scene where Kate and Sawyer were talking to Richard. I loved how they made it seem like Kate/sawyer were responsible for Ben turning out like he did. Also, Hurley and Miles talking time travel was great too, guess they are as confused as the audience.
Agreed.....last week I was Lost after Baby Ben was shot and left for dead. But I love how Ben's story was cleared up in this episode. Loved how Richard ended up answering Hurley's question as to how Ben will not remember Sayid shooting him. "Ben's Judegement".....ooooh, cant wait for next week!
It was a Kate episode, so it was meh. At least it had Miles and Hurley's interaction and the last 5 minutes to make up for it.
This was probably the best Kate episode ever. In terms of character-centric eps(out of the original main cast only) 1a. Sawyer(Confidence Man in Season 1 is the best, every sawyer episode I know I'm going to enjoy) 1b. Locke (Walkabout, Deus Ex Machina which I think was a locke episode, my two favs) 3. Jack 4. Jin/Sun 5 and 6. Sayid and Kate are both pretty bad.
I think it's more like Jack is responsible. If Jack would have gone ahead and done the surgery, Ben wouldn't have become the Ben we know. Jack thought he was doing the right think by not saving his life but he was really doing the wrong thing. His un-Jacklike decision to not try to save somebody was the reason Kate, Juliet, and Sawyer resorted to taking Ben to the others. Of course, Jack never did the surgery. Whatever happened, happened (or didn't happen). I wasn't too interested in the backstory. It was pretty much stuff we'd all figured out. I'm looking forward to a Claire flashback episode sometime in the future so we can see what's been going on with her this whole time. Also, Daniel has only been in 1 of the last 6 episodes. Looking forward to seeing what happened to him. I loved the Hurley/Miles exchange and the Back to the Future reference. Wait. I'm remembering something . . . . Dharma was trying to kill Marty McFly and Doc Brown!
Such an awesome catch!!!! Jack: we saw that he's taken a big step in giving himself up to fate and giving up his control, but it remains that when he imposes his free will, he makes wrong choices. His good choices have come when he's listened to what other people tell him to do, which isn't often. Claire: (mild possible spoiler) Spoiler I do not believe we will see her again until next season Hurley: the writers have often used him to muse for the audience and bring up questions and theories they have. They're using that tool well. Temple: looks like we finally have our answer for the Others' sterilization issues, the zombie kids (S2), why they didn't time travel, and Cindy et al being totally good about being Others. Only question I still have is whether Smokey itself is "inoculating" folks or if it simply guards the temple/drags folks into it and something else is within.
Could someone post Hurley's paradox quote, I think that was the crux of the episode. I think it's like this, time is not linear, more like a cloud of all possibilities. When the survivors jump around in time they aren't jumping back and forth on a line but jumping around in four (or more ) dimensions of possible realities. The past, the future and all different versions of it exist side by side in different dimensions but the survivors only perceive whatever dimension their consciousness is currently existing in. The show could be a primer for average people to get a handle on the theoretical concepts of a multi-dimensional universe that usually is only conceptually possible for those deeply versed in math and physics.
maybe that's why i'm having so much fun with it this season!!! 'cause i was looking for a primetime show to be a math/physics primer for me!!!!
I see it differently, though I've been wrong repeatedly as of late (Ethan, Ben): I think the show DOES have the time traveling characters jumping back and forth on a single timeline. With the write-around about Ben remembering Sayid, they've so far made everything locked up like a drum. The characters transported to the past interacted in such a way that kept everything on the single thread, because that was the timeline they were later born into. Back to the Future has been alluded to numerous times, but they went with divergent timelines. So far the show is resisting that and the multiverse theory. The exceptions/wildcards are that: Desmond may be able to alter the timeline/future/past/what have you The Donkey Wheel, Christian, and by assumed extension Jacob and the Island's spirit stand outside of time. The island is a space/time nexus? I still firmly believe that (a) the island is not a physical place on earth, (b) the island stands outside of linear time, and (c) ultimately, someone will break the closed loop of the timeline Evan
Agreed. They've spent a lot of time this season explaining why you can't change the past and how whatever happened, happened. They went on to prove it last night by having Ben survive. The more they prove this and the more the audience accepts it, the more awesome it will be when the loop gets broken in a significant way.
I cant believe no one has mentioned probably the most revealing tidbit from last night. at the end when one of the others said Charles and Elle would not like this when Richard was carrying Ben away. I guess this means Widmore was kind of in charge of the others at that point? And this is where the feud between him and Ben started?
Well we knew that Ben overthrew Charles either soon before or after the purge. I didn't think it was much of a revelation that charles started to be in charge in the 70s.