Spoiler tags are supposed to be for discussing leaked info before the episode airs. Once it airs, we should be able to discuss it freely and not hide in the shadows like lepers. If people are going to wait til after the episode airs to watch it, they are gonna have to wait to come in here because they don't have anything to discuss anyways. IT'S CLAIRE'S BABY I wonder why Jack didn't want to see the baby? Also, now we know who the "he" from when Kate said "He's waiting for me" is. If you want to nitpick, how can Kate be tried by a District Attorney for a federal case?
Okay, so it's Claire's baby. Is part of the illusion that Kate is trying to pass off the baby as her own? She definitely didn't have the baby when she boarded the flight. How is it that Kate, with all these charges pending against her should she ever come back to the mainland, ends up having custody of a baby pre-trial. Is she trying to pass it off that she got pregnant and had the baby on the island? From my understanding, they weren't on the island long enough for Kate to go through a full term pregnancy given she wouldn't have even been showing when she boarded the flight. Also, who is the pretend father supposed to be? Certainly not Jack...and Sawyer is not one of the "survivors" who came back from the island. And, I take it she did not go through an adoption process saying Claire was one of the original survivors but was one of the two who died prior to rescue and Claire wanted Kate to have custody of her baby? Or, could that be the case? It seems that Kate is pretending this is her baby that she gave birth to. However, that doesn't add up. I dunno... . And, what the hell is Jack's problem if the baby is Claire's baby? There's some back story there that hasn't been revealed. It makes me wonder if Claire didn't die and Jack has guilt over how she died...so he doesn't want to associate with her offspring. Or, maybe Kate played a role in how she ended up with the baby that Jack didn't agree with? Or, maybe it's the guilt that the baby got off but Claire is still on the island? Jack just seems to want to be with Kate in the future but he wants nothing to do with the baby. Weird.
Hasn't it only been a couple months before the ship showed up and those people came to the island? I guess it's possible it drags out for several more months before they are actually rescued.
Yeah, you're probably right though. I think it's been three months or so since the crash. Considering we're over halfway through the show, it wouldn't make sense for the next 40 episodes or so to cover six months.
Well, sue me. I rewinded the scene and heard "Eric", not "Aaron". I'll go get my ears checked. Remember Faraday's rocket experiment: Time moves more slowly on the island. Here's a very good interview with producers Cuse and Lindelof about what's coming up on Lost.
It's a cover-up but I don't think we know the exact reasoning for the cover-up. Maybe those still on the island don't want to be rescued and decided to stay...albeit it seemed more than just 6 wanted to leave the island? Or, from what we have seen, there appears to be a real threat to the rest of the survivors on the island from people with their own agenda. It's probably got a lot to do with Ben and the plane at the bottom of the ocean that isn't the real flight.
All I know is that Claire and her baby definitely get on the helicopter. This is what Desmond saw, and what made Charlie give up his life for. They are getting on that helicopter sooner or later. I'm guessing something probably happens to Claire once she gets on the freighter. There is definitely some sort of war going on between Ben's group and the new group (Naomi's crew). Sayed is going around killing people from the new group while working for Ben. We know it's members of this new group because Naomi and the woman Sayed killed had on similar bracelets. The 6 that made it off the island have also made up a story that only 8 survived the plane crash and that 2 probably died on the island. We know 4 of the 6 so far (unless Aaron counts as one of the Oceanic 6. Technically he wasn't born yet on the plane, but he could be counted because he was still living inside Claire). I'm glad we're getting some answers. Season 4 has been top notch so far!
Two things: 1. My guess is Jack does something that gets Claire killed, which would explain why he can't look at the kid. 2. The timeline is all messed up now. That kid was 2-3 yrs old. If she was such a flight risk, they wouldn't wait 2 years letting her be free before trying her. So was she on the run in the meantime? Does it end up taking 2+ years to get off the island?
I don't know how it ties in, but don't forget the Claire is Jack's half sister and that Aaron is his nephew. Of course, they don't know this (yet). According to Lostpedia, after last nights episode, they've been on the island for 96 days which would make it December 26, 2004. The first day in last nights episode was Christmas Day and the 2nd day was date of the Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. Regarding the timeline of the future: In the first flash forward, the newspaper Jack is reading says April 5, 2007. That's about 2 years, 4 months from where we currently are on the island. Obvioiusly, all the other flash forwards have been before this point in time. But I think it's possible that they could have been on the island long enough to get pregnant and conceive. Also, some women don't "show" for 3 or 4 months. She could have claimed she was 4 months pregnant at the time of the crash. Also, remember the clocks from the last episode. The one on the island said 2:45:03 and the one that came in by rocket said 3:26:23. Apparently, time moves slower on the island. So maybe 3 months on the island is really 9 months to the rest of the world.
At first I thought it was going to be Sawyer's baby. That would explain why Jack was hating on it. Then She said Aaron and that there my hypothesis out the window.
"I can't believe its been 100 days since I've seen a game" -jack But the whole time parity could affect what the real amount of time has been
I am concerned about Locke. Can't he see Ben's trying to manipulate him. I know he will do something incredibily stupid in a later episode that create more roadblocks for the losties. But next weeks episode looks amazing from the previews. It looks like a desmond centric episode and those are always excellent and revealing.
I'm guessing Claire was one of the "8" that survived but did not make it off the island as part of the Oceanic 6. I also think Jack feels guilty for something that will happen in the sequence of events that leads up to Claires death which explains why he didn't want to see the baby.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Jack's dad knows who Claire is and according to the mini cell phone/online episodes, Jack's dad is alive in someway(plus Hurley may have seen him in Jacob's cabin). It's very possible Jack knows by the time he's off island that Claire is his half sister and Arron is his nephew and it'll probably be his dad who tells him, or Ben, since he knows everything.
