So what happened to Faraday and the people in his boat? There weren't on the island when it vanished and they never got picked up by Penny.
that's a good point. i originally assumed it was something to do with claire and her baby, but now that you said that, i guess it's probably not something that we can figure out.
There were some interesting carvings down in the cave. I'm guessing that there might be a connection with an earlier tribe or something . . . though i didn't pay that close attention, I could be completely off base . . .
supposedly backwards talk again. Played forward, its - "The island needs you, you have to go back before it's too late." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2203errLVY
So I have a few questions to pose... What did Charlotte mean about discovering where she was born? Did the people on the boat, not the freighter, disappear with the island or are they floating out in the middle of nowhere? (Edit:Now I see that someone else asked this question but got no answer.. sorry for repeating) Is Claire dead, or alive, or what? And why wouldn't she want the baby back on the island? The original story was that Claire had to raise the baby, no one else, so what's going on with that. Three years sure did look like a lot on Walt? Was that a different actor? Oh and does he have to go back with them too? What is the deal with Jack's dad and Jacob? Did Jacob just steal his form to appear to people or what the heck is going on with that? Did everyone catch the chess game with Mr. Eko? Very nice! So Hurley is being visited by dead people... but didn't tell Walt that his dad was dead. Interesting. Okay... over all a really good season finale. Do we really have to wait until NEXT January to see more??
Good finale, not great, but good...It seemed to drag on, but of course I watched...I didn't see Locke being dead, so it'll be interesting how they all have to go back to the island...I guess it's 3 years later, so anything could have happened... I guess its true when the island doesn't need you, your gone...Michael proved that and I guess so did Locke...So he moved the f'n island...c'mon, isn't that a little silly...if they did, how do they "get back"... Jin dying sucked, but we knew and I thought Desmond was gone, but thank god he found penny, or the other way around...We'll see how they tie this in a pretty little bow...
The key to all this is how an inanimate object has consciousness: The Island and Jacob. We've established that the Island is an electro-magnetic hot spot that that can send organic material through time and space. That's not too much of a leap for science fiction, but to have a consciousness outside of a organism, terrestial or extraterrestial is quite the leap. If I had to take a long term guess I would guess the three toed relics and the carving in the portal cave indicate that ancient astronauts used the Island as a time/space portal (maybe to keep a watch on the development of Earth or as a bridge to connect Earth to an inertgalactic community one they are advanced enough to solve the Island) I'm sure it has the capability to be exploited by humans for either good or evil. (What is any story but the fight between evil and good) So, I am going to say that the Island is an AI machine left to protect the portal. It does so by influencing the thoughts of those who have been exposed to it's magnetic field (rearranging molecules in the mind as a sort of radio transreceiver of images it wants to project?) It uses images that are familiar and influential to the recipient to send it's messages, hence , the appearance of dead people. But Jacob is the machine's default identity; or maybe just the one it uses with Ben and Richard. The final scene of the series might be a Close Ecounters or Cacoon thing, with Jack finding peace and immortatility stepping into the portal to join the rest of the universe. That wouldn't be alltogether unsatisfying.
ugh man it was bittersweet for me. LOVED the episode sucks need to wait like 8 months till the next new one. It wasnt like last seasons episode where I was like OH SNAP OH SNAP OH SNAP! this had a more satisfying feel to it though in terms of answers. i cant remember the last time a show has kept me on my toes so much. I was hoping they would show ecko he was always one of my favorite characters. i had some other questions pop up when ben went behind the "time machine" down in the ice cave was that something dharma built or richard and his crew? as someone mentioned earlier there were hieroglyphics of sorts on one of the pillars in the ice cave. i guess when the island is transported then person connected to the wheel gets transported too. could this mean that locke moved the island again afterwards and unlike ben ended up dying after he came to wherever he landed? actually i need to go back and see last years season finale to see if the obit jack read had an explaination of how he died. which means whitmore probably came close to finding the island again. typing aloud here: i am guessing that dharma was mainly something that whitmore founded and he chanced upon the island years ago. the original inhabitants (richard/others) were probably forced to retreat back to other parts of the island. once ben took care of dharma the others and him teamed up and shared info. maybe the others former leader moved the island for fear of dharma coming back. and it wasnt until desmond forced the first anomaly that caused the 815 flight to crash that they were able to get a rough lock on the location of the island BRING BACK ECKO!! oh yeah and i think ben knew exactly what he was doing when he killed keamy. i think he honestly didnt want anyone off the island since the island wanted those people there. ben probably trusted himself to know how to find his way back to the island if he got off by moving the island, probably why whitmore wants him so much, but in the mean time if ben is able to kill off all of whitmore and his associates the island may be left in peace. imagine if all those people did get off the island its easy for the 6 (or 8) to keep the lie alive or keep quiet but if all those people were able to get off someone was bound to reveal what actually happened. I am sure once Ben found out 6 were able to get off the island then he had to get those 6 (now with locke 7) to get back to the island. wonder if that means if he needs to get desmond back too since he too one one of the original people that the island brought there. i dont think lupitas will need to come back. oh man
Remember that Miles asked her why she'd want to leave after she spent so much time getting back. She didn't seem to know what he was talking about. I'm guessing she was born on the island but taken off as a baby and then adopted. She's been looking for her birth parents and her birthplace. Same actor.
When Walt comes to see Hurley, Hurley tells him they are lying to protect those left behind including his father. Does this mean Michael is still alive and on the island? Hurley saw the freighter blow up, so he would know if Michael is dead.
Hurley didn't even know Michael was back. Nobody off the freighter knew he was there until they got there. Remember Sun's and Jin's reaction? And Michael was down with the bomb when Hurley and the helicopter landed on the freighter and refueled. Sun could have told him later that Michael was on the freighter but he woulnd't have known that initially. But I do think he knows. He said they were lying to protect the people who didn't leave. Walt said something in the lines of "like my dad." And Hurley went "oh . . . um . . . uh . . . yeah, dude" which to me sounded like the knew Michael was dead and he just didn't want to be the one to tell Walt.
I don't think it did. I believe they said in the episode that it was believed he committed suicide. Cannonball thanks for the answers. I can't believe how much that actor has grown!! I guess he wasn't really the age of his character when he started the show. He looks like he's about 16 or 17 now! I hope they bring him back to the island when they go. He's a good actor. Yoyo I liked Ecko too. He was a very cool character. I wonder if Hurley will start seeing all of the dead on the island. Libby, Shannon, Boone etc? That would be really cool.
Who said Libby is dead (my bad...meant Claire; ignore)? How and when did she die? It makes me question whether these people are actually dead...or are just a bunch of time traveling, spot jumping fools? For some reason, I also think Jin and Michael are alive. I found it quite odd that Jin knows a bomb is about to explode. Yet, instead of taking a dive off the boat and trying to swim to shore, he's standing around like an idiot on the boat deck waving at a helicopter that is clearly not going to come back for him.
Oops. Sorry. I guess I meant to imply...where the hell is Claire, dear old Dad, and Jacob? Galavanting around the island and time traveling/spot jumping? lol
Speaking of Libby. They added a scene to the replay last night where they said that the 8 that survived the crash included Boone, Libby and Charlie. Aaron wasn't born yet so he wasn't included in the original 8 survivors. I wonder what the purpose of that is. Why would they claim three others survived and why them?
