Was this the best draft ever? 1 L.A. Clippers Michael Olowokandi C Pacific GRADE D , Average at the best 2 Vancouver Mike Bibby G Arizona GRADE B- , Could have done better 3 Denver Raef LaFrentz F Kansas GRADE B , Not a bad pick 4 Golden State* Antawn Jamison F North Carolina , Even though they traded Carter , Jamison isnt a bad player himself GRADE B+ 5 Toronto* Vince Carter G North Carolina #1 instantly if the draft was held over GRADE A+ 6 Milwaukee* Robert Traylor F Michigan Proabably the biggest bust in the draft GRADE F 7 Sacramento Jason Williams G Florida Great pick at the time ,GRADE B- 8 Philadelphia Larry Hughes G St. Louis Highly Overated , GRADE C+ 9 Dallas* Dirk Nowitzki F Germany A Project turned Star , GRADE A 10 Boston Paul Pierce F Kansas Another steal GRADE A- 11 Detroit Bonzi Wells G Ball State Plays good now , Grade B 12 Orlando Michael Doleac C Utah GRADE C 13 Orlando* Keon Clark F/C UNLV GRADE C+ 14 Houston Michael Dickerson F Arizona GRADE B- 15 Orlando* Matt Harpring F Georgia Tech GRADE C 16 Houston* Bryce Drew G Valparaiso GRADE C- 17 Minnesota Radoslav Nesterovic C Italy GRADE C 18 Houston* Mirsad Turkcan F Turkey GRADE D 19 Phoenix* Pat Garrity F Notre Dame GRADE B- 20 Atlanta Roshown McLeod F Duke GRADE C 21 Charlotte Ricky Davis F/G Iowa GRADE B- 22 L.A. Clippers* Brian Skinner F/C Baylor GRADE C , Two nobodys in arguably the best draft ever? 23 Denver* Tyronn Lue G Nebraska GRADE C 24 Vancouver* Felipe Lopez G St. John's GRADE C- 25 Indiana Al Harrington F St. Patrick's HS GRADE B- 26 L.A. Lakers Sam Jacobson G Minnesota GRADE D+ 27 Seattle Vladimir Stepania C Slovenia GRADE C- 28 Chicago Corey Benjamin G Oregon State Not playing so bad , GRADE C 29 Philadelphia* Nazr Mohammed F/C Kentucky Playing good as of late GRADE B- Second Round 30 Dallas from Toronto Ansu Sesay Mississippi SF WHO? GRADE D 31 LA Lakers from Vancouver Ruben Patterson Cincinnati SF GRADE B 32 Seattle from Detroit Rashard Lewis Alief-Elsik High School (Tex.) SF/PF GRADE B 33 Seattle from LA Clippers Jelani McCoy UCLA PF GRADE C- 34 Chicago from Golden State Shammond Williams North Carolina PG GRADE C 35 Dallas Bruno Sundov Split, Croatia C GRADE C 36 Sacramento Jerome James Florida A&M C GRADE C 37 Philadelphia Casey Shaw Toledo C 38 New York from Boston DeMarco Johnson UNC-Charlotte PF 39 Milwaukee Rafer Alston Fresno State PG P 40 Detroit Korleone Young Hargrave Military Academy (Va.) SF/PF 41 Houston Cuttino Mobley Rhode Island 2G GRADE A , Man what a steal! 42 Orlando Miles Simon Arizona 2G BUST GRADE F 43 Washington Jahidi White Georgetown PF GRADE B 44 New York Sean Marks California PF/C 45 LA Lakers from New Jersey Toby Bailey UCLA 2G 46 Minnesota Andrae Patterson Indiana U. SF 47 Toronto from Portland Tyson Wheeler Rhode Island PG 48 Cleveland Ryan Stack South Carolina C 49 Atlanta Cory Carr Texas Tech 2G 50 Charlotte Andrew Betts Long Beach State C 51 Miami Corey Brewer Oklahoma PG 52 San Antonio Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan 2G this guy plays GRADE C 53 Dallas from Phoenix Greg Buckner Clemson 2G 54 Denver from Indiana Tremaine Fowlkes Fresno State SF/PF 55 Denver from Seattle Ryan Bowen Iowa SF GRADE C 56 Vancouver from LA Lakers J.R. Henderson UCLA SF 57 Utah Torraye Braggs Xavier PF 58 Chicago Maceo Baston Michigan PF ------------------ http://bbs.babitze.com
I forgot to mention this was also Predrag Stojakovic's first year he played , ------------------ http://bbs.babitze.com [This message has been edited by moestavern19 (edited April 09, 2001).]
Mo, 9 Dallas* Dirk Nowitzki F Germany A Project turned Star , GRADE A 10 Boston Paul Pierce F Kansas Another steal GRADE A- I would give both of these guys A++++. These two are awesome. Why only an A and A-??? Also Seattle should be given an A+ for drafting Rashard Lewis in the second round. ------------------ Titan's fanatic!!!! Counting down the days till January 27, 2002 (Superbowl 36 in New Orleans).
I think you're grading that #18 pick with Rocket-red colored glasses. IMO, the grade should be an F, considering that guy isn't even in the league and the talent still on the board. And after this year, that #16 pick could be graded an F, after Bryce heads for Europe to join Mursad. What a terrible draft! (Considering the "what ifs" and "shoulda beens.") Hopefully it's not a sign of things to comein June, considering this will be the first time the Rocks have had multiple 1st rounders since....'98! ------------------
I thought Turkan played for the Bucks now. And I don't think getting Cuttino and the player that gets you Francis would be considered a bust. ------------------ "Of course, thats just my opinion, I could be wrong" -- Dennis Miller
Just went to CNNSI, and nope, Turksan is not on the Bucks' roster, nor anyone else for that matter. Now I agree, "terrible" may be a little harsh in describing that draft. Cat and Dickerson are going to have long, successful NBA careers. But consider what #16 and #18 could have been. I don't think I was the only one scratching my head when they made these two selections, especially the Drew pick. So I'll say that it was a DISAPPOINTING draft. ------------------
Actually Dallas had the #6 pick, and took Traylor with the intention of trading him to Milwaukee for Dirk Nowitzki. So I personally don't think there is a grade high enough to give Dallas considering they basically traded Traylor for Dirk staight up. ------------------ http://www.rapmusic.com/texasg/NewMavsLogo1.jpg
This was actually another Dallas pick that was traded for Steve Nash. ------------------ http://www.rapmusic.com/texasg/NewMavsLogo1.jpg
By the same token, there's no grade low enough for Milwaukee, who traded up for the privilege of picking a bust. ------------------
IHMO the best draft of the decade; The Class of '96. 1. Philly; Allen Iverson, Georgetown 2. Toronto; Marcus Camby, Massachusetts 3. Vancouver; Shareef Abdur-Rahim, California 4. Milwaukee (a) Stephon Marbury, Georgia Tech 5. Minnesota (a) Ray Allen, Connecticut 6. Boston; (from Dallas) Antoine Walker, Kentucky 7. LA Clippers; Lorenzen Wright, Memphis 8. New Jersey; Kerry Kittles, Villanova 9. Dallas (from Boston); Samaki Walker, Louisvile 10. Indiana (from Denver); Erick Dampier, Mississippi State 11. Golden State; Todd Fuller, North Carolina State 12. Cleveland (from Wash.); Vitaly Potapenko, Wright State 13. Charlotte; Kobe Bryant, Lower Merion HS 14. Sacramento; Predrag Stojakovic, PAOK (Greece) 15. Phoenix; Steve Nash, Santa Clara 16. Charlotte; (from Miami) Tony Delk, Kentucky 17. Portland; Jermaine O'Neal, Eau Claire HS 18. New York (from Detroit); John Wallace, Syracuse 19. New York (from Atlanta); Walter McCarty, Kentucky 20. Cleveland; Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Lithuania 21. New York; Dontae Jones, Mississippi State 22. Vancouver (from Houston); Roy Rogers, Alabama 23. Denver (from Indiana); Efthimis Rentzias, PAOK 24. LA Lakers; Derek Fisher, Arkansas-Little Rock 25. Utah (b); Martin Muursepp, BC Kalev Tallinn 26. Detroit (from San Antonio); Jerome Williams, Georgetown 27. Orlando; Brian Evans, Indiana 28. Atlanta (from Seattle); Priest Lauderdale, Peristeri (Greece) 29. Chicago; Travis Knight,Connecticut The '98 draft was definatley good, and probably had a better 2nd round than the '96 version (which I can't find), but this draft was simply amazing. Azim da Dream ------------------ Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me the hell alone. http://www.clutchtown.com [This message has been edited by Azim da Dream (edited April 09, 2001).]
Good post Moe, But i don't think you took into account where these players were drafted. For Example-Rashard Lewis at 32 is a great pick. Ruben Patterson in the second round, McCoy in the second round. Personally I think these deserve at least b's and probably a's. Wow amazing that Seattle has four players selected in the second round of this draft. ------------------ Never Underestimate the Heart of a Champion
Not so amazing if your team's GM had the genius to draft Todd Fuller at #11. Fortunately for the league, said GM is no longer employed in a personnel capacity. He's an assistant coach in Detroit, where he can witness firsthand the "development" of Joe Smith, whom he drafted #1 in '95 ahead of Antonio McDyess, Jerry Stackhouse, Rasheed Wallace, and Kevin Garnett. P.S. Ironic that you couldn't find the list of 2nd-round '96 draftees, since it includes two current Rockets and two former ones: Othella Harrington (HOU at #30), Moochie Norris (MIL at #33), Jeff McInnis (DEN at #37), Randy Livingston (HOU at #37), Malik Rose (CHA at #44), Jamie Fieck (PHI at #48), Mark Pope (IND at #52), and Shandon Anderson (UTA at #54). ------------------ [This message has been edited by Swopa (edited April 09, 2001).]
best draft of all time? that has to be the one where olajuwon,jordan,barkley got drafted. does anyone have the complete draft for that year? ------------------ http://www.democrats.com mgh 1925-2001
http://home.rmi.net/~doug/Drafts/1984 1. Akeem Olajuwon Houston Houston 2. Sam Bowie Kentucky Portland 3. Michael Jordan North Carolina Chicago 4. Sam Perkins North Carolina Dallas 5. Charles Barkley Auburn Philadelphia 6. Melvin Turpin Kentucky Cleveland (*) 7. Alvin Robertson Arkansas San Antonio 8. Lancaster Gordon Louisville LA Clippers 9. Otis Thorpe Providence Kansas City 10. Leon Wood Cal State Fullerton Philadelphia 11. Kevin Willis Michigan State Atlanta 12. Tim McCormick Michigan Seattle (*) 13. Jay Humphries Colorado Phoenix 14. Michael Cage San Diego State LA Clippers 15. Terrance Stansbury Temple Dallas 16. John Stockton Gonzaga Utah 17. Jeff Turner Vanderbilt New Jersey 18. Vern Fleming Georgia Indiana 19. Bernard Thompson Fresno State Portland 20. Tony Campbell Ohio State Detroit 21. Kenny Fields UCLA Milwaukee 22. Tom Sewell Lamar Philadelphia 23. Earl Jones District Of Columbia LA Lakers 24. Michael Young Houston Boston 25. Devin Durrant Brigham Young Indiana 26. Victor Fleming Xavier Portland 27. Ron Anderson Fresno State Cleveland 28. Cory Blackwell Wisconsin Seattle 29. Stuart Gray UCLA Indiana 30. Steve Burtt Iona Golden State 31. Jay Murphy Boston College Golden State 33. Steve Colter New Mexico State Portland 36. Charles A. Jones Louisville Phoenix 37. Ben Coleman Maryland Chicago 39. Danny Young Wake Forest Seattle 45. Gary Plummer Boston University Golden State 46. Jerome Kersey Longwood Portland 50. Ben McDonald UC Irvine Cleveland 51. Jim Peterson Minnesota Houston 70. Rick Carlisle Virginia Boston 87. Bob Thornton UC Irvine New York 92. John Revelli Stanford LA Lakers 131. Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) New Jersey 133. Eddie Lee Wilkins Gardner-Webb New York 156. Ken Bannister St. Augustine New York 199. Fred Brown Georgetown Atlanta 212. Carl Lewis Houston Chicago ------------------
Carl Lewis as in track star, four olympic gold medals in one year Carl Lewis? ------------------ Never Underestimate the Heart of a Champion
Yes. I pasted the list exactly as it appears on the site ... obviously, it skips to "notable" selections after the first round. ------------------
The 1984 draft is probably the best , But The 98 draft has produced some many good players . ------------------ http://bbs.babitze.com
The 98 draft was good, but 96 was far better. Another good year was 94: Glenn Robinson Grant Hill Jason Kidd Eddie Jones Jalen Rose Juwan Howard Donyell Marshall Aaron McKie Wesley Person Charlie Ward And second rounders like Pig Miller Voshon Lenard Lawrence Funderburke Howard Eisley Michael Smith ------------------