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Looking ahead to the summer - Do we extend Brooks?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Subxero, Apr 8, 2010.

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Maybe bashing the PG has just become habbit for people.

    Brooks, has improved in getting others involved. He's actually a good penetrate and dish guy. He can also shoot lights out.

    Part of it might be that folks watch all of the Rockets games and only the highlights of other players. So the other players all seem like they can do more than Brooks.

    But if you watch other games these other PG's make mistakes too. They have bad shooting nights.

    Brooks is young, he has improved every year, and obviously puts in the time and work on his game. He's also showed that he can play with Yao, and is a good fit with that piece on the team.

    The idea that we are going to be able to get a Steve Nash, or AI in his prime isn't realistic. Saying why would we have Brooks look at what CP is doing, is a ridiculous argument to make. We all know that Brooks isn't CP. But Brooks, is awesome, able to improve, and work with the coach, the system, and the big guy in the middle. There are many many PG's that can't do that as well as AB. We should be glad that we have him, and locking him up for a few years isn't a bad decision.
     
  2. francexplosn

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    AB has carried the team this year? I would not say that. AB's on/off court net is -0.3 this year, while Lowry's number is +7.7. How many times our starters just dig a hole in the first Q and lowry led the team back. AB is a quality pg, but he cannot defend and run the offense efficiently.
    Morey already mentioned that the priority this summer is to keep Scola and Lowry. If AB is willing to accept the contract like 40M/6ys (Similar to Battier's), Rockets will probably re-sign him. Otherwise, he won't be re-signed this year. He STAT will definitely go down next year playing for a better team with Yao and whoever we sign this summer.


     
  3. da_juice

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    extend him!!!
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    In the words of Mr. Swoly.....That's what she said :confused:
     
  5. LabMouse

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    Morey will trade Brooks for Bosh if the chance is there. The rockets can easily get another PG, but not PF. The basketball is the big man game, even C. Barkely understand it. Also Morey would not overplay anyone, just look at Landry.
     
  6. BimaThug

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    How are you going to trade Lowry??? He's a free agent, and I doubt that he wants to play in Indiana next year.
     
  7. francexplosn

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    If Morey want to get Bosh, we probably have to give up scola and 1st round picks. Tor don't need AB, they already have J Jack and Jose Calderon.

     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Those are the reasons they NEED AB. LOL.. :grin:
     
  9. DaDakota

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    You just proved my point....Brooks had to CARRY Battriza and Hayes all year, and he kept the team in the games...where our bench could come in and put the hammer on other team's benches.

    Without AB, our starters would be even worse...at least pre Kevin Martin.

    DD
     
  10. melvimbe

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    I haven't read everything on this thread, but has anyone brought up next years lux tax? Without looking that numbers, I thought we are likely to be over the threashold without extending AB. So any raise he gets now is going to cost Les twice as much.

    I just don't see any reason to do that. I don't really see Brooks value going up next year. His point total will go down. His defense isn't going to improve. He might get more assists and be more effective shooting, but I don't think that's going to raise his stock much.

    Additionally, I don't think giving him a long contract is going to make him more valuable on the trade market. I still think his size makes some GMS weary. It's fine for a year or two gamble, but you don't want to be stuck paying 9+ for 3+ years if it's not panning out.

    And if Morey does use Brooks to get Bosh, I'm sure he'd have a plan to get Rubio or some other PG using picks, Scola, Battier, and/or Hill. Plus all the other assets available. And I doubt it'd be what any of us are expecting.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    This is a great point, nice beginning, really smart.

    Uh oh, your big start is slipping, this is complete conjecture, no evidence, nothing, his point total might go up, you don't know, no one does, his history suggests it will go up, but hey, maybe this is just a bump in the road, let's continue.

    Ooops, another pothole, again, nothing says he will get worse, he might get better, he has all 3 years so far...hmm..seems like you are ignoring his history, why would you do that? Road is getting bumpy, time to get new shocks.

    Yeah, what team wants a good shooting, efficient PG, they grow on trees right?

    I think we just hit a sink hole here.

    Ah, the road is smoothing out here, the points are getting back to quality, nice recovery happening....

    Yep ended on a high not.

    So overall, this post started very strong, was extremely weak in the middle and had a nice close.

    Overall, a solid B-

    DD
     
  12. MightyMog

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    Ridiculous comment, name another 6'0 Scoring PG who is capable of taking a team to the finals, whose best asset is Speed?

    I mean really you want to bank a 5 year contract at $50 million dollar on an undersized PG who lacks what AI brought...

    Geez, he may be the best PG we had in ages but lets not get carried away.

    25 years old
    Scoring PG (he is horrible at drawing fouls)
    His best asset is Speed
    undersized
    Poor defense
    Poor Passing (also because of his height)
    Court Vision is poor
    Still doesn't have a clue how to beat a trap defense.


    If he was 6'7 -6'8, he be a keeper at SG.

    I mean geez, i know we lack players that can score or create on their own..but that doesn't mean you don't trade your best player for this season when you get a good offer.
     
  13. MightyMog

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    Let me make it even simpler

    Extend him and trade him if we get good offers for impact players.

    I simply do not believe an undersized scoring PG is going to lead us down the glory path, just like i don't believe a 7'6 1 legged man can do it either.
     
  14. LabMouse

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    You have keep Lowry if you have AB as a point guard. You also have to have another good big man (Bosh, Scola and Hill) if you keep that 7'6 1 legged man. That would be pretty good team if you ask me.

     
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    Actually, it doesn't. Not even close.
     
  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    why is that, its gone up so far?
     
  17. DaDakota

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    AB has been great, he has been the best player this entire year....and may be the best player next year too.

    Get a healthy Yao back and this team can do some damage, with AB starting, and uh....finishing.

    Some of the haters are starting to look like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle DUMB !

    DD
     
  18. wekko368

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    For the majority of the season, Brooks has been the undisputed first option, and his statistics have reflected this.

    Next year, both Yao and Martin will take shots away from Brooks, and when Yao is on the court, the pace will slow down. Common sense says that his scoring will go down simply due to a decrease in touches. Shooting percentages are more important than his point totals.

    It's funny that DaDakota goes around calling people dumb yet he has the analytical skills of a carrot.
     
  19. Noob Cake

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    Brooks value can't get any higher now, time to ship him off for Bosh in the off season
     
  20. Commodore

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    I don't know how many people have noticed Brooks improvement in just one season, not just in scoring but in managing the team.

    It used to be you could count on Brooks driving into the lane and either tripping up and losing the ball or getting trapped with no where to go. That would happen at least once every game.

    Now Brooks almost always is able to find the open man or score a basket when he drives.

    Brooks can break down the opposing team's D almost every time. Only a few PGs in the league like Rondo can stay in front of him. He does get trapped alot due to his size, but he's learning how to adjust to that. Trapping that far out leaves defenses exposed if Brooks can beat it.

    There are very few players with the kind of speed, outside shot, and finesse around the rim that Brooks has. It would be very hard to give that up.
     

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