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Looking ahead to the summer - Do we extend Brooks?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Subxero, Apr 8, 2010.

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  1. worzel gummidge

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    Unless the Rockets are offering $8M to $9M/yr. I reckon Brooks would rather take his chances as a free agent. Especially when PGs like Hinrich, Calderon, Ford, and Ridnour are making more or near that.

    As for trading Brooks. I'm all for that if it brings in another All Star. I think the Rockets should go all out for Granger this off-season.

    Brooks + Hill + Ariza + Taylor + NY's 2011 & 2012 picks + Jeffries (filler) → Granger + Dunleavy (salary dump), Pacers reduce team salary by $2.5M

    Lowry, Dunleavy
    Martin, Budinger
    Granger, Battier
    Scola, (Granger), (Hayes, re-signed@min)
    ???, Yao, Andersen

    The Pacers know they won't be able to replace Granger with another top ten player in the league through free agency even with cap space. Whoever they get has to be from either the draft or trade. If the Rockets want Granger, their trade offer will have be nothing short of than amazing.
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    curry plays under nellie, and thats a pretty big number to be beaten on.

    Hell, take a look at monta in that system.
     
  3. TexAg713

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    you guys keep talking about clutch situations with the game on the line as being a factor for keeping brooks, but i'm not all that sure that it's so important to Morey. He did in fact say at one point something along the lines of "good teams don't win close games, they never put themselves in those situations to begin with".
     
  4. OremLK

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    Morey doesn't believe in clutch stats and I don't either. That's not the point. Brooks is a very good young player who is still visibly improving and is the leading candidate for MIP this season. He can create for himself in multiple ways and is one of the best jump shooters (especially off the dribble) in the game today.

    I don't want to keep him because he's clutch, I want to keep him because he's good and only getting better.
     
  5. TexAg713

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    Found the article:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/11013/its-not-about-winning-close-games

    This thinking dovetails with his decision to acquire what most of us consider to be one of the most "unclutch" players on our team: Kevin Martin. For Morey, it's more about what players do DURING the game than at the end of games.
     
  6. TexAg713

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    I'm not disagreeing with you, just responding to some posts earlier in the thread. I'd like to see us keep Brooks too. While exciting to watch, none of us really know what Morey's ideal team looks like, or whether his end game plans include Brooks. If on court efficiency is Morey's thing, and Morey pays attention to things akin to Hollingers PER (Hollinger derided Brooks for his awful PER earlier this year), maybe he trades Brooks.
     
  7. Chamillionaire

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    i like granger, curry, bosh, etc... as much as the next guy. but do you think they are going to trade them for brooks? c'mon. get real.
     
  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    Defense in general, and getting others like Luis, Yao and Martin involved when they all return.

    A Brooks/Martin backcourt will need to be HEAVILY compensated on the defensive end from the 3-4-5 If we ever want to win a ring.
     
  9. ASidd_1990

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    That's alot to give up for Granger, imo.

    Besides that doesn't solve our problems for a C/PF combo. Also you have Granger as our backup powerfoward and Dunleavy as our back-up poing guard? Give us Murphy instead of Mike D and maybe the Rockets would do it. But that leaves us w/o a back-up point guard assuming Lowry starts.
     
  10. ASidd_1990

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    Are you really trying to compare Brooks to Kobe? Kobe does so much more than score, he defends and is a vocal leader on the team, something Brooks isn't.
     
  11. rottendoubt

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    I think we'd only get Curry if Golden State won the lottery and got Wall.

     
  12. ASidd_1990

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    QDoubleA was only partially correct. The rumors were that the Rockets offered Scola + Battier + Cook for Amare but the Suns wanted to waive the physicals so Morey balked at the idea.
     
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    Terrible trade, just terrible.... if anything we trade Lowry, he can't shoot and is much more replaceable.
     
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    I am sorry but Brooks shoots a MUCH MUCH higher percentage than Lowry (please go check that). We have Martin to draw fouls, also when Yao comes back we need people to space the floor.

    Go watch some tape of rafer playing and tell me that you are not glad we have a pg who can score the ball and penetrate at will. Brooks can create for himself and others. Not only this I have noticed that Lowry tends to rely on getting the whistle and flop but alot of times he doesn't get it and he just sits and complains to the refs.

    If anything Lowry is the one who is much more replaceable through the draft than Brooks.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Not in the playoffs, and not when referees don't fall for his flopping.

    Look, I like Lowry too, a lot, but there is a reason he is a career backup PG.

    He was 3rd string in Memphis and 2nd string here, for a reason, he can not shoot the ball.

    And honestly, the way he tosses his body around (which we all apreciate) he is going to get hurt....

    I would rather have a guy that can space the floor, hit the outside shot, initiate the offense and create for himself as well as others.

    Think about this for a minute, how many wins do you think the team would have had if Lowry was starting with Ariza and Battier?

    Brooks has carried this team this year....he is the best PG we have had in years....

    I understand people have a myopic view of what a PG is or isn't...that is why so many of you are having difficulty understanding that Brooks is a PG....

    He is a shooting PG, much like Mike Bibby in Sacremento......you don't need a traditional PG in Rick Adelman's offense.

    Brooks is fine....in fact he is better than fine, he is great.

    And for you Bosh fans.....if you want Bosh, trade Yao for him.

    DD
     
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  16. MightyMog

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    A undersized PG who gets older and loses his only assest Speed= Trade High.

    If Brooks ain't scoring, pretty much he can't do anything else.

    He is our best player this year because he was our go to guy because we had no choice until KM arrived.

    25 years old, his best assest is his speed. He doesn't draw fouls like iverson and iverson is a better passer. AB is no AI.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    AI is old and out of the league.

    Brooks is 25, he has his speed for at least the next 7 years.

    DD
     
  18. MightyMog

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    AI is a far far far better player than Brooks.

    7 years before he loses speed...I hope you are right because if the Rockets give him a 5 year contract around 50 million. I hope he keeps it or improves his court vision.
     
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    I mean the young AI or even the 30-31 AI.

    Not the current AI.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Of course you did, it was a ridiculous comment that got responded to in the same ridiculous manner.

    No one ever said Brooks was AI......

    DD
     

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