Looking ahead to the summer - Do we extend Brooks?

I'd rather have some take a higher percentage shot late in games.

3's in crunch time are not better than Yao, Bosh, Martin in the paint.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA...Dude your practically worshiping the guy!!!

Brook lovers need to get grip, seriously!!, if Bosh were to available to the rockets in a sign-and-trade for Brooks you get it done with out hesitation!!

Brooks will never be an All-star IMO; not really his fault though ... he just happened to play in generation full of guards with better abilities than him ...

There's only 4 guard positions in the western conference All-Star team ... and I don't see them opening up any time (Kobe, Roy, Paul, Williams, Nash, Billups, etc), even this season when the west was full of Injuries, Brooks didn't make it despite career numbers ...

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He pretty much crushed both D-Will and Rondo over the last couple of weeks. If you don't see that he has the potential to be that kind of star player, you must be blind, ignorant, or both. It's not a matter of worshiping Brooks--it's a matter of realistically estimating his potential. Something you seem incapable of doing.

 

Back to the original question. Make Brooks play for a new contract! Though he doesn't seem the type a la Hedo Turkaglue...keep him hungry.

 

This is a ridiculous statement to make about a player who is arguably the current frontrunner for the MIP award.

 

I'm agreeing with those who would say trade Brooks for Bosh, and was agreeing with what sammy said - I guess my point was more against DD's " If we trade Brooks for Bosh, we'll be weak again at PG" point, in pointing out if your guys are good enough at other position (Martin, Yao, Bosh), having a "weak" PG (and Lowry's fine) is perfectly acceptable.

So uh, yeah.

 

Do you work hard to be a prick or is it natural? Dude got his info wrong...give him a break.

 

Theres no way Morey moves Brooks in a Bosh deal. Maybe at the deadline, but that ship has sailed.

We have enough non rotation assets to make a deal w/o Brooks.

 

It's disgusting how many of you overrate Brooks. Some of you are treating him like a superstar when the reality is that he's not even all-star caliber.

The overwhelming majority of Spurs fans wouldn't trade George Hill for Brooks.

And yet some of you are refusing to include him in a package for Bosh.

 

of course we have enough non rotation assets but you think toronto wants that? Toronto will want something of value in return not just guys like Jeffries, Andersen etc


i am all for moving brooks if it means bosh, brooks is good but i think his value is very overrated on this board. i would do so in a heart beat.

Lowry is a much better PG than brooks is when it comes to all other aspects of the game other than scoring.

Brooks' greatest asset is his ability to score and guess what is the easiest thing to replace? Scoring. There is a reason why guys like Von Wafer bounce from team to team and league to league when other guys like Ryan Bowen some how stay in the league an absurd number of years.

Brooks' value to other teams is at a high right now if Morey can somehow turn that into Bosh that would be freakin amazing.


oh and dont extend brooks now wait till next season and what the CBA could be.

 

The longer you wait,the better he gets, the more he's going to cost you. Right now, the rockets can secure brooks for litttle more than mle money. After next season if he does the same and the team plays better, he's going to cost more. Imagine if he didn't have to play witth battier,ariza,and hayes in the starting lineup for half the season. If martin were here earlier, he would be a 7asst pg along with 20ppg. To me,along with his age, that would be an 8m per season guy. Even if they move on from they yao era because he's done, having brooks at 6.5m,martin at 11m,ariza at 6.6m still leaves the team with financial flexibility and a good young core that pushed they playoffs with just that. Thats not including if they re-sign scola,hill and chase progress, and lowry comes back.

 

Like you watch hill otther than when they play tthe rockets. Hill actually makes parker trade bait. By the way, do you think the spurs would take yao for duncan? I think not.

 

Jeffries and Andersen are not "non-rotation assets", they are fillers. We have 3 potential lottery picks, as well as Hill/Budinger, not to mention the rights to Llull which apparently has more value than I anticipated. And its not about what Toronto wants. NY didnt want give up Hill, but Morey played them. SA did not want to give up Scola, but Morey played them. Thats the beauty of DM, he knows where the line is in the sand on other GMs.

Bottom line is its what Bosh wants. If Bosh says send me to Houston, Colangelo will take back what he can get. He is in no position to hardball because he has basically failed with the Raptors. Losing Bosh for nothing on top of that would cost him his job.

Which would you choose: trading for Amare using the picks as value going back or trading for Bosh using Brooks? (Lets assume Jeffries and Battier are the salary fillers in both cases.)

Lowry is a fine player, but his style of play absolutely cannot be relied upon. His defense is better, that is true, but thier passing/playmaking is closer than a lot of people make it out to be. Kyle makes big plays often, but he also often comes in and has no effect on the game often turning the ball over when he isnt getting the calls.

Lowry alongside Yao will absolutely not work. There is no synergy there. Lowry excels by pushing the tempo of the game up and running while looking for cutting bigmen for easy layups. He barrells into the paint and looks for fouls. With tougher more synced in defenses in the playoffs, this style just doesnt work. If the game gets slowed down, they will post up Yao. Lowrys skillset would be awful playing off Yao. His 3pt shooting is bad, but that doesnt stop him from shooting them. He would have trouble driving because Yao's defenders would clog the lane.

I bring up the playoffs last year. Lowry was great at grabbing a few key rebounds, but Brooks was the story.

 

You don't understand, they will not get a shot up unless they can beat their man off the dribble, that is how late game situations work.

You have to have SOMEONE beat their man off the dribble, and they won't guard Kyle Lowry, they will let him shoot, and we have Rafer all over again.

You need a guy that can dribble penetrate and is a threat to score from the outside.

It doesn't have to be Kobe, but AB is our best option, nay, our ONLY option at that.

Did you see the Boston game, without AB, or someone LIKE him, we lose that game, and many many others.....

DD

 

This is a must read:

That is spot on, exact, and 100% correct.

DD

 

Not sure about that with the looming CBA talks. Suppose you lock him up for 9 million a year and then the CBA kicks in and max contracts are now 8 million with a hard cap. His corrected value would be something like 5-6 million. He would be overpaid for 5+ years. Its probably better to wait until the new CBA kicks in before his new contract is worked out. An analysis of when his free agent class is and how much cap room is available then is also appropriate in this decision process.

 

You should replace Daryl Morey. Considering how Daryl Morey tweeted that was excited by the prospect of Lowry/Martin/Yao lineup, I have no doubt in my mind that Lowry will work perfectly with Yao.

 

Hahah, Dude Morey tried to trade Brooks AND Scola for Amare about a month ago. The guy isn't untouchable.

 

He was talking about thier ability to draw free throws.

 

I think you should check your sources. The proposed deal was Scola/Battier + picks.