1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Looking ahead to the summer - Do we extend Brooks?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Subxero, Apr 8, 2010.

Tags:
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,705
    Likes Received:
    38,967

    Nope, because that is robbing Peter to pay Paul

    While you get incrementally better at the PF position with Bosh being an upgrade over Scola.

    You get much worse at the PG position by Lowry replacing Brooks.

    If you trade Brooks, you need to make sure you are covered elsewhere.

    The Tmac trade was great because it got us a replacement Wing, and a budding PF.

    If you are going to get Bosh, IMO, it would be smarter to do something like a Scola + Shane or Trevor etc, or Lowry too (any combo), that way you bench got weaker but your starters got stronger.

    The starters play 70+% of the minutes anyway, it makes more sense that you try to keep them intact.

    IMO, of course....

    DD
     
  2. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,079
    Likes Received:
    17,706
    Gotta disagree there, for two reasons:

    1) Brooks may well turn into a star player at Bosh's level, or close to it

    2) Brooks meets the team's needs better; we're going to be stacked at the PF position, especially following this season's big man-loaded draft.

    3) Perhaps most importantly, sign and trading for Bosh is going to mean taking on a MAX contract just before the new CBA. We don't have to re-sign Brooks until after the new CBA is in place, which means he's likely to be much cheaper, especially as an RFA.

    4) Battier and Jeffries both have value as players, so it's not just Brooks for Bosh. I'm not so sure that even now Bosh's production exceeds the three of theirs combined.

    That said, I agree it would be far, far from the "worst" thing. I just don't think it's a clear cut decision, and I would lean toward not doing it if we have to give up Brooks.
     
  3. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,079
    Likes Received:
    17,706
    So I guess that was four reasons :p
     
  4. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,428
    Likes Received:
    5,181
    Duly noted. You are on the record.

    Frankly, IMHO, you don't turn down a chance to add a true superstar, even if it leaves your roster unbalanced.

    Plus, the Rockets would still have a TON of assets to use to add another PG, including Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger, several present and future lottery picks, foreign prospects, and even a signed-and-traded Luis Scola.

    You do that deal. Period.

    (Of course, this is all a moot point, since I don't see any way that Toronto does that deal. They can do better in a Bosh sign-and-trade than essentially paying $15M for one year of Aaron Brooks and the right to re-sign him in restricted free agency the following summer.)
     
  5. LabMouse

    LabMouse Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    251
    Get Bosh without giving up Hill, picks, and Scola, then Morey can use those to get a starting point guard, I think it is a good deal for the rockets.

     
  6. Naija Texan

    Naija Texan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    55
    Still don't understand all this crazy love people give to Bosh, where they think us paying him MAX value and trading away Battier, Hill, our future picks and a possible future allstar like Brooks is sensible.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,705
    Likes Received:
    38,967

    I think the disconnect is that I don't think Bosh is a Superstar player, he is an all star player, but not one that is going to lead a team anywhere.

    I am not saying we don't try to get him, I would love to have him, but giving up Brooks for him is a little to close to equal in production for my taste...

    DD
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,493
    Likes Received:
    19,607
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ekQ_Ja02gTY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ekQ_Ja02gTY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
     
  9. rockets934life

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    A couple things i'd like to clear up...

    1) I did say we should look to move AB while his stock was high but I assumed everyone understood that I meant only do it if there was a MAJOR upgrade available and Brooks was the key part of the deal.

    2) AB is a fantastic little guy so I do not advocate getting rid of the guy by any means. If there is a chance to upgrade then you do it IF and only IF it makes you a better team in the long run. I concur with Bima, AB in a Bosh deal is not likely that is why I didn't include him in my list of players but there might be another players that come available that could just be to good to pass up.
     
  10. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    The same thing could have been said about Pau Gasol.

    Yao, Bosh, & Martin would give us 3 legitimate scoring options. There is no way that we don't do this esp if Scola isn't involved. We could always draft another PG.
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    29,987
    Likes Received:
    14,005
    do we extend him? What kind of stupid question is that?

    I know thats not what you meant, but you should change the title.
     
  12. Kojirou

    Kojirou Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    6,180
    Likes Received:
    281
    And take a look at the Lakers. They are utter **** at the PG position, have a worthless bench, and are still a championship team, and Lowry is easily better than Fisher. Yao-Bosh-Martin with players like Ariza, Scola, Budinger, lottery pick, Hill, and Lowry surrounding them is easily a championship team.
     
  13. da_juice

    da_juice Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    1,070
    T be honest, I'd rather have Brooks then Bosh, Bosh is big money, and older then brooks and I love Brooks' tenacity and speed. I think Brooks can become at least an all-star if not one of the premier point guards in the league.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,493
    Likes Received:
    19,607
    Bosh is 1 year older than Brooks. Bosh is Big money but he's also a Big time player. He not only Scores big, He rebounds Big.

    I love Brooks but you are saying he could At Least be an All-star.

    Bosh is a 5X Allstar.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,705
    Likes Received:
    38,967
    We don't have a go to player in your scenario, none of those guys are creators like Kobe. Aaron Brooks is our go to guy, you don't trade those unless you are getting a better one.

    DD
     
  16. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,493
    Likes Received:
    19,607
    Yao Ming is not a Go to Guy?

    Kyle Creates just fine. He drives and dishes in the paint better than AB actually.
     
  17. ASidd_1990

    ASidd_1990 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes Received:
    87
    Kevin Martin can take up some of the scoring that might be missed by Brooks. And assuming we keep Chase, his game will improve immensely during the off-season. Who knows, he might also develop a post game. With Chase, I think if he just improves his dribbling and defense, he will become a star in this league.
     
  18. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,428
    Likes Received:
    5,181
    Wow. Someone does not understand analogies very well.

    The Lakers didn't trade away their starting PG to get Gasol. Unless you think that Javaris Crittenton was about to blow up as a superstar PG just before he was traded.

    The point was that adding a superstar (or near superstar) player is something you don't pass up.

    Sure, the Lakers are weak at the point. But it has nothing to do with the Gasol trade.
     
  19. ASidd_1990

    ASidd_1990 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes Received:
    87
    But Javaris Crittenton is the best "shooting" guard in the NBA!
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,705
    Likes Received:
    38,967
    You need a dribble penetrator that is also a threat to shoot from outside late in games.

    That is AB that is not KL

    DD
     

Share This Page