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Look how much McHale hates Jeremy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CXbby, Oct 13, 2013.

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  1. TJ VS TR

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    Absolutely correct? Dumars made the absolutely right decision at the time? You could say that you understand the reasoning for his decision, but to proclaim that it's absolutely right? That's very dangerous. BTW, I don't think it is absolutely right and I am sure that many feel the same way. Just because hindsight is 20/20 doesn't mean all reasonable decisions are absolutely correct.

    The apology does mean something. Bad decisions are made every single year but not all of them ensures an apology.

    I don't feel like I should be the one giving specifics because you are the accuser, baseless as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    That makes no sense.

    You are the person who made this statement.

    So if keeping Lin really was "not that hard" of a decision considering the predicament that the Rockets were in, perhaps you should provide some options that were viable for the Rockets at the time.
     
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    IC, THAT's what you're harping on. "Not that hard" came after "It wasn't impossible", almost as a commentary, meaning not impossible. And I already said "it's tough". So you're arguing that it was way more difficult than tough, very close to being impossible? Um......and you are accusing me of making incorrect statements because of that? So why is it so much more difficult than just tough?
     
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    Okay I don't even know why I bothered in first place.

    You are absolutely right the Rockets should have kept Jeremy Lin as the 4th PG, having only 3 available big men in the roster wasn't an issue, nor the fact that two of them were named Hasheem Thabeet and Jordan Hill.

    You were definitely not speaking from hindsight when you said it wasn't a hard decision to make.
     
  5. tinman

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    Lol.

    Remember what rudy t said about non believers
     
  6. TJ VS TR

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    You're right, why are you bothering me with this nitpicking? What's your agenda?

    As far as I'm concerned, in any non-contending teams, upside/assets are much more important than fits; I think Morey would agree, that's why he said what he said.

    I have already explained to you, "when I said "not that hard" it doesn't mean it wasn't hard, it meant "not impossible". You have some truly stubborn comprehension problems.
     
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    Even Morey says cutting Lin was a mistake. And it was. Why is that so hard to accept? Understandable at the time? Of course. That's why it would be unfair to get mad at Morey over this (like Les).

    You don't sign someone for 25 mill that you had cut a year ago and the say you would cut him all over again.
     
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    Of course it was a mistake, in hindsight. But he did what he thought was best at the time -- I'm not sure how anybody could be mad at that.

    @ TJ VS TR, you say there were options that would have allowed us to keep Jeremy at that time and add a capable big man... what were/are those options, in your opinion? I'm not nitpicking or being contentions, either -- I'm genuinely curious as to what you think they could have done.

    But uh, yeah. He's here now and Les is a baller, so it's all good. LOL.
     
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    I'm not mad at Morey at all, not a bit. I was just responding. His recovery time is amazing tho, I'd still be pretty upset if I were a Pistons fan.
    I don't know, I don't remember which "capable big men" were available at that time and I have no interest in finding out. I wrote:

    I think it's pretty self-evident. If you think a player is great, you keep him, period.

    On the other hand, I don't see the absolute necessity to "add a capable big man" since it's not a contending team.

    True, it's all good.
     
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    Just curious, has anyone seen Linsanity? In the doc, Lin conveys his first time in Houston as a low point because there were so many PGs ahead of him, he couldn't even get in practice time, let alone crack the rotation. Yet, Morey went on record saying they wanted to keep Lin but couldn't because they needed the salary relief. How did Morey draw this conclusion if Lin wasn't playing (even is its just in practice)? I honestly do not recall anything about Lin on the Rockets prior to his stint on the NYK. Anyway, not trying to stir up anything. But when I heard Lin said that it did bump against the narrative that Morey put out there. (Also, Linsanity was a good film, check it out if you can).
     
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    contending > competing >>>>> tanking
     
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    He played pretty well in preseason, outplayed Flynn by far. Clutchfans as a whole wanted to keep him over Johnny Flynn at that time, but it wasn't seen as a big deal since we already had 2 good PGs anyway.
     
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    So the most recent argument in this thread is about whether or not Morey should have cut Lin before the '12 season?

    In case you forgot, the PG position was already solidified at that time. Lowry/Dragic had that spot locked down.

    It took a perfect storm for Linsanity to happen. Lin would have sat his ass on the bench all year if he wouldn't have been cut.
     
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    Ideally true. But a lot of times, teams take risk and get big reward.

    No, I think it's more about whether it was tough or extremely hard to keep Lin.

    Yes, but it could also be liquefied in no time.
    No kidding!
     
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    Ahh, I see. Thanks for that tidbit. From his interview, sounded like he got no burn in practice. Or maybe he just meant there were too many PGs in front of him.

    Also, if anyone cares and haven't read it yet, Grantland did a really good piece on JFlynn back in August. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9547629/the-struggles-former-lottery-pick-jonny-flynn
     
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    I'm glad Lin got cut. Gave birth to one of the greatest sports stories of recent years (and definitely in my lifetime). Only sucks that the Rockets had to pay crazy to bring him back. :)
     
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    Pretty sure it's general knowledge that Les Alexander was not going to tank.


    Pretty sure there was a deal that would have opened up a spot for Jeremy Lin, had a veto not occurred. Also pretty sure Lowry and Dragic are currently starters of their respective teams.

    But I guess in the end.

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