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Look at this as a positive EX: Astros season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houstonrocketss, Nov 27, 2004.

  1. edc

    edc Member

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    Yes.
     
  2. Glyyde

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    as a lot of ppl have been saying..... Yao best play are not low post Bang them up kind of play.... instead, he is more suited to play the role of Divac/Sabonis..... which JVG doesn't seems to want him to do tat......
     
  3. MadMax

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    if yao isn't playing well because he's "dissatisfied" with the team he's on then he needs to grow up. my bet is that's not it, though. i have more respect for yao then to think that. if that's it, then all of his critics are correct.
     
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    I'm sorry. But this is such a horrible analogy I feel I have to comment on it.

    Baseball and basketball are totally different in terms of impact a single player can have on the ballclub, Barry Bonds being the notable exception here. McGrady is 1/5 of a team for 40 out of 48 minutes of the game. This is not the same as going to bat 1 out of 9 times on offense, and fielding a ball once a while on defense for position players.

    In your trade scenario above, the equivalent of T-Mac/J. Howard would be something like Rolen, Edmonds, and Morris from the Cards.
     
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    I've been saying that since the end of last season, never got much support for it though. The majority of the board wanted Yao to be said"bang" player a "monster" to "bring it down".
     
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    which is y I do think the problem is with JVG..... he just want Yao to become someone Yao doesn't wants to be......
     
  7. Ender120

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    It's very far from a horrible analogy.

    We traded away 3/5 of our starting playoff lineup.

    There are 9 starters on a baseball team.

    3/5 of 9 is 5.4, which is rounded to 6.

    I listed 6 players.

    The point is that you cannot trade away 3/5 of the important pieces in your starting lineup and still hope to compete.

    And your argument that individuals don't have an impact in baseball? I don't think so.

    You think the Giants are anything special without Bonds? Guess again.

    Special players change the whole mentality of the game. Instead of trying to get hitters out, you find yourself pitching around certain hitters.

    If the Giants score 5 runs in a game (an average amount) and Bonds hits two homeruns in that game (a likely scenario), assuming that they are single homeruns, he has just scored 2/5 of his team's runs for that game. If there are men on base for either of those shots, that percentage rises.

    McGrady is averaging 20 a game this year. The Rockets are averaging 87, but we'll round that up to 90 to make things clean.

    Bonds = 2/5
    McGrady = 2/9

    Put those with common denominators to facilitate comparison:

    Bonds = 18/45
    McGrady = 10/45

    Individuals absolutely have an impact in the game of baseball.

    But you're right, the basics of the games are too different to compare fairly. So throw all the statistical arguments out the window.

    The basic point is simple, fair, and applicable to both sports: You do not trade away huge chunks of your successful lineup and still believe you have a chance at competing. That is moronic.
     
  8. meh

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    I'm sorry, but do you ever watch baseball, ender120? Do you realize that baseball is more than just hitting? 3 factors make up a baseball game, hitting, pitching, and defense. Hitting makes up 50% of the game(scoring runs). Pitching + defense makes up the other 50%(preventing runs from being scored). You know something? Position players in baseball DON'T pitch, which is by far the most important factor in preventing runs from being scored.

    Basketball is different. Players plays both offense and defense, hence making their impact significantly stronger than that of a position player in baseball.

    As for your Barry Bonds comment, didn't just mention him being the exception, not the rule? :confused:
     

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