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London bombings - Reaction from Islamic states

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. NJRocket

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    Stupid question.....they carried out these attacks in order to get us out of their (the terrorists) territory for the same reason we went there to begin with....if there were no terrorists there to begin with, we wouldnt be there.

    They arent stupid people....if they saw us invading a country with no terrorists in it, they would watch the news and laugh at us...not move there to be a part of it.
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Let me make a comment about this attack...

    The simple fact that apparently NO ONE (including US Intel, EU Intel, or any other country, at least as far as I know) was able to hear "chatter" or have any clue whatsoever that a possible attack would take place is, frankly, the scariest part of this whole ordeal.

    Why? Simple. This would mean that the attack was likely carried out by an independent group (a small group of Qaeda wannabes if you will) who just took it upon themselves to carry out these attacks on behalf of Al-Qaeda. This would also mean that it would inspire copy-cats across Europe to do the same thing, and this would be VERY, VERY hard to stop because without intelligence documenting their conversations/plans, it would be almost impossible to stop them. Usually these terrorist attacks are stopped as a result of intercepted communication among the various members of the terrorist cell, so without that it would pose a major challenge to our Intel agencies to find different ways of penetrating these cells, most likely it would have to be done through human intelligence on the ground, likely through planting spies and informants around suspected groups.
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    You are deliberately being the myopic ******* you always are, and I'm calling you out for the countless incidents of insulting everyone on this BBS that doesn't share your limited point of view and second grade vocabulary. People on this BBS who have met you say you are a nice person when not hiding behind your keyboard. I'll believe it when I see it, Mr. Condorkador.

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  4. tigermission1

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    To further prove my point that these criminals are anything but Islamic, the Egyptian ambassador to Iraq has been killed:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4660909.stm

    Captors kill Egypt envoy to Iraq

    Egypt has confirmed its ambassador to Iraq has been killed, five days after he was kidnapped in Baghdad.
    An internet message purportedly from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's militant group was released on Thursday, claiming Ihab al-Sherif had been killed.

    A video on the website showed a blindfolded man who identified himself as Mr Sherif saying he had worked at Egyptian embassies in Iraq and Israel.

    Cairo is an ally of the US and Iraqi governments.

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak offered his condolences to Mr Sherif's family and said his government would not be deterred from supporting Iraq.

    Mr Sherif was abducted in Baghdad on Saturday. ID cards bearing his name appeared on a website on Wednesday.

    A statement also released on Wednesday in the name of al-Qaeda in Iraq said Mr Sherif would be killed because he was an "apostate", who had betrayed his faith.

    It criticised the Cairo government for its support of the US and Iraqi administrations.

    Al-Qaeda claims to have beheaded several foreign hostages in Iraq under the leadership of Zarqawi, a Jordanian fugitive.

    'Delayed announcement'

    A written statement on the website on Thursday said "the verdict of God against the ambassador of the infidels, the ambassador of Egypt, has been carried out".

    According to the statement, Mr Sherif's captors had recorded his "confessions" and planned to release them later.

    No images of Mr Sherif's killing were shown. It is unclear on what basis the Egyptian government has become convinced that he is dead.

    Mr Sherif had been in Baghdad since early June.

    The statement said the group had been planning to abduct more foreign envoys in Iraq.

    "The reason we delayed the announcement of capturing the ambassador of the dictator Egypt was to be able to capture as many ambassadors as we can," it said.

    Bahrain's envoy to Baghdad was hurt in an attack by gunmen earlier this week. The Pakistani envoy to Iraq escaped unhurt after gunmen attacked his vehicle.
     
  5. wnes

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    Please clarify yourself, what is the reason we went to Iraq?
     
  6. NJRocket

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    yeah...i was thinking it was the bloods or crips myself :rolleyes:
     
  7. VinceCarter

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    as Bush said our ideology is one of compassion while these terrorists are full of "hatred"....now my question is what is the root of this hatred?... what makes these people do these terrible things?...that is something i don't think is really explored enuogh....



    you really don't know anything about the middle east....sorry but i believe both the Western world is misinformed on the Middle-East whereas the Middle-East is just as misinformed about the West.... today is a sad day...i feel for my Muslim brothers/sisters.....as well as the victims of this catastrophe...i hope one day peace will prevail.

    DD your hatred is shown by your comments about the religon of Islam....you said "its the biggest joke of all the religions"
     
  8. NJRocket

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    yeah...i feel terrible for the people who planned this....just terrible :rolleyes:
     
  9. halfbreed

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    Well as you've never met me, perhaps you shouldn't tell me what I do and don't know, eh? Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they don't know ANYTHING. I'll give the fact it's quite possible you know more than me. But to say I don't know anything about the Middle-East and to portray yourself as some sort of fountain of knowledge that the rest of us must drink from is rather insulting, frankly.

    And as for the religion factor, all DD is saying is that all of the terrorists have been twisted by a radical version of Islam. The terms "holy war" and "jihad" are thrown around by these people daily. An Iraqi cleric recently spoke of his plans that the White House would become "the Muslim House." Can you honestly say that a radical version of Islam has NOTHING to do with the recent attacks?
     
  10. tigermission1

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    You are a joke! You say nothing of substance, and thus you are not even worth a serious reply to anything you post.
     
  11. halfbreed

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    ...so civil... :rolleyes:
     
  12. NJRocket

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    Hmmm...he feels bad for his muslim brothers and sisters after a bunch of muslims blew up a bunch of innocent people....and my posts aren't worthy of replies? OOOOOOOOOOOOooookay...if u say so!
     
  13. rhester

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    This is very sad news.

    Whenever innocent people die, so many lives are tragically changed.
    Children have lost parents, parents have lost children.

    My prayers and sympathy... I hope our security is in the best interest of our citizenry.
     
  14. wnes

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    Didn't you see the post by T_J earlier in this thread that Israel had some info on the London attack?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_britain_explosions_1
     
  15. halfbreed

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    Not to sound like an idiot because I'm honestly not entirely sure but I think that was proven false.

    http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=122106240&p=yzzyx68zx

    Israel not warned about blasts - foreign minister
    07/07/2005 - 12:37:23

    Israel was not warned about possible terror attacks in London before at least six blasts ripped through the city, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said today.

    A Foreign Ministry official had said earlier that British police warned the Israeli Embassy in London of possible terror attacks minutes before the first explosion.

    “There was no early information about terrorist attacks,” Shalom told Israel Army Radio. “After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear.”

    Israel was holding an economic conference in a hotel over the underground stop where one of the blasts occurred. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was supposed to attend the conference, but “after the first explosion our finance minister received a request not to go anywhere,” Shalom said.

    He said he wasn’t aware of any Israeli casualties.

    Shalom speculated that attackers might have taken advantage of the fact that police resources were diverted to a meeting of Western leaders.

    The Israeli ambassador to London, Zvi Hefetz, said today that the embassy was in a state of emergency following the explosions in London, with no one allowed to enter or leave.

    Danny Biran, an Israeli Foreign Ministry official, said all phone lines to the embassy were down.

    The ministry has set up a situation room to deal with hundreds of phone calls from concerned relatives. Thousands of Israelis are living in London or visiting the city at this time, Biran said.

    Amir Gilad, a Netanyahu aide, told Israel Radio that Netanyahu’s entourage was receiving updates all morning from British security officials, and “we have also asked to change our plans.”

    Netanyahu had been scheduled to stay in London until Sunday, but that could change, Gilad said.
     
  16. Baqui99

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    Why don't you go home to your double-wide trailer, give your cousin/sister a kiss, and watch some Nascar.
     
  17. Ubiquitin

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    Because less than 1% accurately reflects the rest :rolleyes:

    I hope London can survive any market problems that may occur and those who have been wounded are treated the best and get well as soon as they can.

    And as for a bunch, I do not consider a dozen or so the definition of a bunch.
     
  18. tigermission1

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    Your reply to this original post implied that you believe there is no difference between his "Muslim brothers and sisters" that he is concerned for from a possible backlash that might take place against them, and the "Muslim terrorists" who committed these acts. How else was I supposed to interpret that reply?

    And your reply to the article I posted from the BBC about the murder of the Egyptian Ambassador to Iraq gave me the same impression.
     
  19. halfbreed

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    OK, honestly, you're accusing the guy of stereotyping and in the process you throw out about three more.
     
  20. NJRocket

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    Truth hurts doesn't it?
     

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