Look whose calling a post, trash. The Trash Man himself. I make an honest statement, ask an honest question, and this is what I get. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
I am very relieved to learn this. Even basso and I are at different ends of many issues, the last thing I want to hear is someone I D&D on a daily basis in this BBS suffers a terrorist attack - that would tantamount to something very personal to me.
DD, How will Muslim countries stop this if the mighty West is incapable of doing so? How do you expect corrupt, unelected, unaccountable leaders to legitimately rally their people to confront the radicals among them, if those governments are seen as "puppets" of the West to begin with? As for the education in Muslim countries, their education is just as secular as ours, with exception of a few countries like Saudi, Iran, and Pakistan, who provide religious courses in their school curriculums. Did you know that in Egypt religion is prohibited from public schools as a required course? Just one example. I don't think this is containable, to be very honest with you DD. Just look at ALL the massive amount of money, people, and resources dedicated to the fight against terrorism, and we still have occurances like today's in London. Or to be more accurate, you can't eliminate it all-together as long as people feel like they are fighting for various causes (not just Arab causes, but any cause), because when people feel strongly enough about something, they are more than willing to sacrifice their lives for it; this can be easily seen throughout history. I think if things are done the right way, we will be able to contain terrorism to a certain degree, but not eliminate it alltogether. However, and this is very, very important to note, the majority of those Muslim-majority states DO cooperate with the USA on MANY fronts, just short of putting occupying troops in another Muslim-majority state like Iraq. We are getting very good cooperation in intelligence, for example, from the major countries in that region: Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, and the Turks. We have Pakistan actively fighting on our side in the "war on terror". We have Egypt and Jordan (among others) providing jails and facilities designed for extradited detainees from the USA, Britian, and other places. And on and on and on... So basically, to sum it up, there is a lot of cooperation among the states in the world on the issue of terrorism, we just don't hear about it much because the majority of those leaders are unelected and worried that their populations, who oppose the Iraqi campaign, would view them as "traitors" if they cooperate with the Americans. Most of these leaders do their work behind the scenes, with extraordinary secrecy.
I was over there about 8 years ago and took that very line. I remember being amazed at the London Underground after living in Houston my whole life. Very sad about today.
There is no denying Saddam gave money to families of Palestinian suicide bombers. But are you still trying to make a link between Saddam and Osama bin Laden and 9/11?
RocketMan, I don't think the color codes are designed to tell us what to do (us as in the general public). They are designed to tell police and civil defence and emergency services what to do or at least to be prepared. The news agencies report on the terror levels because, well, that's what news agencies do (give info). But I don't think the general public is supposed to do anything different except, maybe, pay closer attention just in case instructions are given.
There have been proven links ... just not a note that Saddam wrote saying "please attack the US on 9/11." The blame lies with Osama, of course. But to say that Saddam knew nothing of the attacks and to say he didn't give any funding is incorrect, imo.
I'll buy that, but that begs the question....why do they even publish them to the public in the first place?
Basso, Bro, I am very glad you got good news from your loved-one overseas. I can only imagine the thoughts running through your mind. Wish everyone with family/friends there in London the best, hope everyone stays safe. The best advice you can give them is to probably just lay low for a while and avoid public places. I hope this is the last we see of this **** for a while. Again, the British need to clean their act regarding their harboring of terrorists, extremists, and criminals in their country. If this proves to be some local Al-Qaeda-inspired wannabees, then I hope the British public presses their government to cleanse their society of these people.
In addition to alerting law enforcement to take the necessary precautions and letting the general public know what is going on, they publish them to make the terrorists think twice about any plans they have. If something as simple as raising the terror alert level is enough to cause the terrorists to nix a plan, then frankly, the liberals mockery of the terror alert system is proven to be even more ridiculous. There is text out there that states that hitches in al Queda's plans will cause them to abort mission.
I can't believe this BS is still being circulated. Saddam certainly contributed to terrorism by providing a "death bounty" to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers targeting Israelis. That was never given as one of the main reasons to invade and occupy Iraq by Mr. Bush... far from it. There is no credible evidence, that I have seen, linking Saddam to 9/11. None. If you've found anything, post it here. Keep D&D Civil!!
Wow, the 9/11 commission must have 1) derelicted their duties, or 2) had something to hide from American people and especially the 9/11 victim families?
Do you honestly believe that raising the terror level would be enough to cause a terrorist to nix a plan?
The heightened publicity, law enforcement resources deployed, and extra security measures would make their timing be thrown off considerably. Timing is critical in executing these plans, a basic tenet even you could agree with. There have been written many stories which document how al Qaeda will not pull the trigger on a plan when even the most minor of glitches pops up. If you were planning on robbing a bank, and the government came out and said, "look out for bank robberies", would you still rob that bank the next day? No, and don't act like you would. You are deliberately being obtuse in your pathetic attempt to backtrack from being called out for insulting the efforts of law enforcement. CASE CLOSED
Keep it civil, eh? Here's some articles/blog entries about it. I won't post the body of all of them. Most of these deal with memos between a top Saddam official and 9/11 attacker Mohammed Atta. Before you say it, yes I know that these sites aren't exactly bastions of bipartisanship. http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001294.html http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/780plthl.asp http://www.fishkite.com/notes/Telegraph News Does this link Saddam to 9-11.htm I'm perusing my RSS aggregator for the other stories and I'll edit this post to add more as I find them. Once again, I'm not saying Saddam was RESPONSIBLE for 9/11, however he was not a hinderance and it's very possible he was a resource for the attackers. I do not mean to bring all of this up in response to the London attacks and I'm not trying to politicize this event. I was merely responding to a comment I saw, so I apologize to any of you affected by this tradgedy if it seems otherwise. I really am not trying to make this a political event.
I think it would. These guys are perfectionists.....they are a-holes...but they are perfectionists. I think they would definitely nix a plan if they thought it would be foiled.
How many suicide attacks in Iraq (please don't mix this with the tyranny of Saddam) were recorded/reported before the War?
