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London bombings - Reaction from Islamic states

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Member

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    PS....the city of Houston is so vulnerable to terrorist attack it's mind-numbing. The right attack on the right plant on the Ship Channel would devistate this city. How are we being protected?
     
  2. wouldabeen23

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    we have top men working on it....TOP men
     
  3. Zion

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    No, but he certainly is not part of the solution as many of you seem to believe.
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    Yes, please tell us exactly what is being done, where it is being done and who is doing it. That way the terrorists can figure out how to circumvent it and still do their dirty deeds.
     
  5. tigermission1

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    It doesn't matter what they claim or how they twist it, the bottom line is people will use any rhetoric to garner support from the public.

    BTW, Muslims and Zionists is not a religious issue, it's an issue over what many Muslims believe to be Zionist plots against the Arab world to occupy Arab land, so it's political.

    Anyways, any possible legitimacy that these groups still had (it would be beyond my understanding as to how that's possible, but I am sure a few idiots still thought these groups of terrorists had some legitimacy) should have ended a WHILE back by looking back on any of these instances:

    1) the series of terrorist bombings in Egypt during the 70s, part of the 80s, and then during the 90s that targeted both foreigners and, mostly, innocent civilians (including a school bomb that was planted by Al-Zawahiri's group during his days of living in Egypt, which resulted in many deaths at a public school full of innocent children).

    2) The continued terrorist attacks in Saudi (a Muslim land by all accounts that Bin Laden said was "sacred" and that's why the "infidels" should leave it, and now he has found it convenient to commit terrorism in this "sacred" land!)

    3) The massive killings going on EVERY SINGLE DAY in Iraq not by "invador" forces, but rather by these terrorists that take aim at Iraqi police officers, Iraqi civlian gatherings (including weddings, celebrations), and civilian targets. In fact, it has gotten so bad that now the local insurgency in Iraq (who are people interested in freeing their occupied land, not to slaughter their fellow civilians) has begun now to fight against these terrorists that are inflicting so much pain on supposedly their Muslim "brothers".

    There are MANY other examples, but suffice it to say that these are vicious criminals that try to twist words and hijack legitimate causes/grievances in order to garner support for their murderous attacks.
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    :rolleyes:

    How about some information?
     
  7. Mr. Brightside

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    Be careful not to blame a specific group or people, as we don't have anyone claiming responsibility for this. It could be done by anyone.
     
  8. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Ninjas.

    Don't tell anyone.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Hatred? Please explain your meaning, as I don't hate anything or anyone.

    I do question things, like religion and the role it plays in stuff like this, but I don't hate it.

    DD
     
  10. ima_drummer2k

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    Go back to page two and read thegary's post. It's #41.
     
  11. RocketMan Tex

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    That's what I'm talkin' about! If it's the Ninjas, then we are in good hands!

    :D
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Tiger,

    Excellent post.

    When do you think the Muslim countries will stand up against these lunatics and help stop the spread? When will they open up and allow freedom of thought about religion? When will public education be about reading, writing, and arithmatic, and not about religion?

    I agree it is not the Muslim religion that is doing this, but Muslim countries are being hurt more so than anyone else because of it, and they are the only ones who can truly make it stop.

    DD
     
  13. Mr. Brightside

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    The problem with blaming Islam as an extremist religion or any religion is this: Its not fringe Islamic people, but it is fringe human beings who are responsible for this.
     
  14. tigermission1

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    These people seem to be always ahead of the curve and coming up with different ways to commit their terrorism, and they have proven creative enough so far, I don't think they are getting ideas from this board. We have been forced to adapt to them, not the other way around.

    Anyways, regarding the question of security in Houston or any other town, this basic concept must be understood: no country in the world has enough resources to guard every building, every mall, and every port against attacks. That's why these are called "soft targets", because of how easily they could be targeted and how ill-guarded they are. If you wanted to provide enough security to every possible place, you will need the entire civilian population to be actively engaged in guarding these targets. So no amount of security will ever be enough for "soft targets" like malls, buses, restaurants, and other public places/transportation. London was probably more secure than many, many cities in America, and look what happened.

    Now, could we use more resources right here at home to futher secure (there is no such thing as absolute security for anything) our homeland? absolutely. In this sense, is the war in Iraq draining our resources? That's undeniable, but no conclusion can be made from the attacks in London regarding this issue, I don't think it would have mattered much whether British forces/resources were being diverted to Iraq or not, this probably would have taken place regardless. This is as far as the security thing goes. However, is Britain's presence in Iraq the cause behind these attacks? It seems so, yes. So far it looks like the Spanish and the British have been targeted by major attacks from Al-Qaeda, and they both were coincidentally the two largest providers of troops in Iraq behind the USA.

    The British public's reaction will be one of two things: either it will strengthen their resolve in the fight and will make them stand behind Blair moreso than they have in the past, or they will blame Blair's policies for bringing this plague of terrorism to the heart of London.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Typical left-wing refusal to give the benefit of the doubt to the men and women of law enforcement...

    Despite publication of this very threat repeatedly in the media and no successful terrorist attacks being executed, you choose to feign ignorance about the situation and assume that nothing is being done. Don't you feel that is a slap in the face to the local authorities in the area, including the firemen and policemen who do an honest day's work to ensure the area's safety?

    Another trash post by you, RMTex.
     
  16. basso

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    my sister just called- she's on a train bewteen frankfurt and munich, and just heard about the attacks herself. she and her family left Waterloo Station in London at 6:30AM local time, so they were probably in the Chunnel when the first bomb went off.

    Thanks so much to everyone here who expressed their concern. i deeply appreciate it.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Working in England for many years, I can promise you that it will only strengthen their resolve.

    I have spoken to many of my friends over there today, and our headquarters is in London, all of them said that it will sway public opinion towards a more aggressive approach to terrorism.

    One of my friends who was completely against military action in the Middle East said simply "F..k em, now !"

    DD
     
  18. halfbreed

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    Iraq was not a hotbed of terrorism before the Iraq war ... right. It may not have been on Syria levels I'll admit but to deny that Saddam was funding terrorists is either ignorant or naiive.
     
  19. mc mark

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    excellent basso!!!
     
  20. Deckard

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    That reaction wouldn't surprise me at all. Yet another marker regarding the insanity of those behind these actions.



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