Lockerbie Bomber to be set free to die with family

Are you saying he was a member of the general prison populace? I'd be very surprised, but I'll concede that point if your provide a link to show he was not isolated. The film crew is just a way to show that he died naturally and without duress -- a safeguard for this convicted murderer.

As far as Timothy McVeigh, yes, he is as crazy as any other murderer. I wouldn't object if the federal government gathered all convicted murderers in one secluded spot (an Aleutian island?) where they could be studied at length. Just because my conjecture (they must be crazy to commit murder -- as opposed to justifiable self defense) might or might not be true, they should not be released IMO to prey upon society.

 

If he was in prison for some generic crime, like armed robbery or drug smuggling, wouldn't they probably let him die in prison? There are thousands who die in incarceration with no one thinking twice about it. How sad for them that the famous get perks, even in the penal system.

 

Not that I know one way or the other about Scottish prisons and clemency/terminally ill inmate policies, but how do you know this is an unusual practice motivated by celebrity?

 

This is the Scottish penal system where this might not be that unusual of a situation. The judge said that this ruling was in line with Scottish values.

 

First off I presume that Scotland has a similar provision against cruel and unusual punishment so disecting his body and using it for science against his families wished might be considered cruel and unusual. For instance the PRC has been criticized for using the bodies of executed prisoners for medical reasons.

Second if under Islam that might be considered as desecration of the body which might piss of some other crazy Muslims to carry out another Lockerbie.

 

That may be. If they're letting people on death's door go as a general rule, then so be it.

 

The article in the first post says that many family members of the victims are upset that this guy is getting out.

 

3 months.

Not to be too cynical but . . .. If they are convinced he did it [was a terrorist]
They let him out with just enough time to strap one more on for the team
Get one more punch in . . before he checks out

Rocket River

 

Once you're dead, you're beyond torture (cruel and unusual punishment), wouldn't you say? Also, once you are a convicted prisoner, you become a ward of the state. Ergo, the body belongs to the state.

As far as the family is concerned, they should have stopped him from committing such a horrid crime. Other "crazy Muslims" will carry out an attack regardless. In fact, his hero's welcome in Libya IMO inspires his fellow terrorists to exceed his Lockerbie "fame," whereas taking samples from his brain and genitalia might be a far more effective preventative, although I believe we should have the samples for future research. This might save a life in the future, but it can do no harm in the present.

 

That is not the standard that most countries considered civilized. As noted the PRC is criticized for taking that sort of attitude.

So since there are crazy muslims out there we just go ahead and insult them even more by desecrating someone's body? Did it bother you when Somalis were dragging the body of US soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu?

 

you're one crazy wingnut

 

I'll probably get blasted for this, but I think its hypocritical for the US to make a big deal about this release when its pretty well known we funded terrorists throughout the 80s. The guy was acting as an agent of his government, right?

He'll be dead in 3 months. Let him live the rest of his miserable life on someone else's dime.

 

I can't deny the craziness, but I take offense at the wingnut insult (although if you had regard for the English language you would know a wingnut is actually an important, useful cog in machinery). You believe that, once you're dead, you can be tortured?

In your second example, you take a phrase out of context without considering the rest of what I said. So, doesn't that make you absurd? Prove your case. Don't just throw out undeserved insults.

 

That a convicted prisoner is NOT a ward of the state? Or that taking small tissue samples is the same as dragging a body through the streets?

If you notice, I was quoting "crazy muslims" from the post to which I was responding.

 

All that wingnut email crap you've been reading is starting to show up more in your thought processes and reveal itself in your posts.

 

To which important, useful (i.e. wingnut) emailers are you referring? My tea partiers are pretty serious, responsible folk. The hate mongers get weeded out pretty quickly. I do get diverse views from both sides of the fence, and some are very passionate. However, I see no difference between their passion and the passions exhibited here in the D&D -- except my tea partiers are less prone to insulting language. even to those with whom they profoundly disagree.

 

really? so you're a really sympathetic person compared to them?

 

I'd say equally sympathetic, despite being more sympathetic toward his victims than the terrorist. Now, where is your argument? State your case without weaseling around with sniper questions.

 

Apparently the killer was met by cheering Libyan crowds upon his release. That is disgusting.

The Scots should be ashamed of themselves for letting this scum go. Imagine if one of your family members died in that plane tragedy. What a piece of schit that guy is

 

Good luck getting anything meaningful out of vlaurelio. Don't hold your breath