Never knew with holding secret classified Christmas cards can land u 136 years in Prison. Os should have warned the orange cheeto
So the 50 page indictment document means nothing? Is just there for show and tell? I imagine there is never going to be a good time to do anything to him. You guys are cool with laws being broken and we can't do anything because it will always be considered political. Timing doesn't matter.
Concerning the basis to prosecute, it's more than just that. From lawfareblog: The opening 31 counts all allege the same offense: the willful retention of national defense information in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 793(e). A key provision of the much vaunted Espionage Act, § 793(e) makes it a criminal offense to have “unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document…[containing] information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation,” where the possessor then “willfully retains [such a document] and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it[.]” Only Trump, and not his alleged co-conspirator Nauta, is listed as having acted in violation of the Espionage Act. Also of note (past criteria for prosecution) As then-FBI Director James Comey explained while closing the Hillary Clinton email investigation: “All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: (1) clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or (2) vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or (3) indications of disloyalty to the United States; or (4) efforts to obstruct justice” (emphasis added). Note that this indictment specifically contains allegations as well of two other of the key aggravating factors Comey noted at the time: obstruction of justice and clearly intentional mishandling of material. I added (1) through (4) for ease of read. Comey listed four OR conditions for prosecution. Trump's case involves 3 of those 4, in addition to other charges.
...I think this is exactly the analogy people should use in gaining a basic understanding of what has happened and what the Donald is being accused of. The Donald was his own worst enemy in this incident throughout. Whatever supposition might be levied as to the Donald's "understanding" of the law or his own disposition as president as to the salience of the law in this instance, the fact remains that the Donald's "intent" with his behavior became at the end (again, by the Donald's own repeatedly documented disregard), a non sequitur. Just as the application of the letter of the law (at times in the interests of fairness and mercy, as well as justice) allows a potentially great deal of latitude in the law's enforcement...so too is the breadth of the parameters of infraction of the law expansive enough to encompass, at the very least, an obvious indifference or contempt for the spirit of the law. To wit: whatever the Donald's "intent" was in repeatedly ignoring and even seeking to openly defy the "letter" of the law, his repeated ignoring and defiance of the law after the "enforcement" of the law (of which, repeatedly being notified that all the documents, as soon as possible, needed to be returned to the National Archives, which went on for a year or more) itself underscored "doing harm to the United States" or "aiding any foreign governments". Doesn't matter if the Donald wanted souvenirs or wallpaper or bathroom reading material or blackmail leverage, or he was just too stupid to know or care that what the hell he was doing was all kinds of dangerous and wrong. He did this. With malice of forethought. With contempt for the statement of law. For greed. For misplaced glory. For delusions of grandeur. For the sake of the chronically stupid or the criminally inclined. For the glory of MAGA and the flag that waves for thee. All of it or none of it. Whatever fits for you. Whatever works for you. The "injury" the Donald caused, or the "advantage to foreign nations" the Donald abetted, has got nothing to do with "specifics"...especially "specifics" offered as an explanation or defense so vague as to be considered infantile in the context. The breadth of the infraction here reveals, ultimately, the narrowness of the thinking and behavior (and also, in another irony, the consistency) of the Donald. All of this...from the very beginning...was too big for the Donald...because he is so predictably small. Self righteousness belongs to the narrow-minded. A narrow mind and a fat head invariably come on the same person. Intelligence arouses fear and respect, the lack of it keeps one on the narrow minded road of disrespect, stupidity and inferiority complex. --unnamed quote
Every count against Trump relates to conduct after the subpoena. Every witness is a Trump lawyer, employee, or confidant. There are no Democrats. The Presidential Records Act does not say what many Trump defenders say it does when they mention it gives ex-Presidents the ability to take documents. No, it gives them the right to use the documents in consultation with the National Archives, a provision put in primarily to allow the writing of memoirs--and classified stuff would still be classified. If the reading of the PRA that the Wall Street Journal editors support was true, you could literally impeach a president for selling secrets to foreign countries and then have him take all kinds of records with him when he left the White House and moved to North Korea. It's nonsensical, wrong, and goes completely against the purpose of the PRA. Also, shoe on the other foot: if this was a Democrat, what would the reaction of Republicans be? I can tell you that I, as a Democrat and a person who has held a security clearance, would be livid that someone I supported did this--and I would be extra mad that they were so cavalier and stupid in the way they did it. Hiding boxes in bathrooms? Moving stuff around to keep it from investigators and your own lawyers? Bragging about it to randos? This is no genius politician. He's no mastermind. He's a not very bright guy who is like the kid that becomes more and more obvious stealing cookies to the point where they want to get caught. The whole thing is a self-own of the highest order. Of course he was indicted.
DeSantis the clown thinks he has a free path with Trump going down and is trying to be sneaky about it. But my man Trump is walking free. Aileen Cannon will make sure of it. Hahahahaha
Can you name one thing trump has done for you personally policy wise? Do you folks ever hear yourself at how pathetic you sound. A billionaire conman is, "your man." The trump cult is something else
These are full blown grown ass men whom you're talking too acting like kids. Politics rots the brain. It's sad
Do you realize how utterly pathetic you sound ? A man who was gifted a silver soon as a kid who's filed bankruptcy and divorced more times than harden choking in the playoffs made you a better person lol. This website is priceless
I am not laughing at her. I am laughing at everyone including DeSantis that doesn't believe that Trump will be walking free and Aileen will be making sure he does.
I have dated more women, hotter women, made millions more, enjoyed the best food, driven the best cars, while enjoying highest number of Instagram and youtube subscribers when Trump was the president. Those are simply facts. If you think that is a coincidence, you don't know statistics.
No, no you haven't. It's ok, you don't have to be special, and you don't have to lie about it either. Your mother still loves you.
As you've made so much money with trump lets make a simple wager whether trump will win or not in 24? You're so certain he is? Let's wager 1k?
... there's still a good chance that the delightfully incompetent Judge Cannon... ...after the beating she took from the 11th Circuit down there, for how she bungled and blundered and fellated the last case involving the Donald she presided over... ...will have to recuse herself if she is indeed the judge of record (which we won't know before Tuesday at the earliest, I believe)... ...or the local magistrate has her removed because, again, she looked like she didn't have the first clue about what she was supposed to be doing last time, with her "Special Mastering" and all of that business... ...or she may have been thoroughly admonished and humbled and embarrassed enough to actually go and take a few law courses at night (or even watch some reruns of "Night Court"), so she can do a better job this time around and save her career and reputation... ...this IS Florida we're talking about where all this is happening, mind you. ... wouldn't surprise me at all if somehow Mickey Mouse got called as a character witness for the defense...
