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[Local Orlando News] Dwight Howard trade could be imminent

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fullcourt, Jul 6, 2012.

  1. ArtV

    ArtV Contributing Member

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    Hump is looking for a 4 year deal. That's more than just a slight snag. 1 pick for Hump 1 year? Ok. But for 4 years? ahh...that would be a no.
     
  2. The Cat

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    Yes, because it'd be so hard to acquire another late-first round pick in a weak draft. :rolleyes: As for Cleveland's role, they could just move Wallace instead of Humphries.
     
  3. asmith8266

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    The Magic GM is an idiot.
     
  4. The Cat

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    Thank goodness. This is how ridiculous ESPN has become in terms of pushing an agenda:

    Humphries agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...th-team-possibly-complete-dwight-howard-trade

    In other words, ESPN is alleging that a player's OWN PERSONAL AGENT is working against his client's interest and seeking to entice him into a one-year deal at the prime of his career, all for the benefit of Dwight. That's why this entire scheme seems so fake.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    I just read that a sign and trade can't be for a one year deal anyway.
     
  6. hooroo

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    Fegan is the agent who got Troy Murphy his $60 million extension from the Warriors. He's not going to lowball his client.
     
  7. juicystream

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    Howard's agent as well...
     
  8. juicystream

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    Other years non-guaranteed. I don't think Humphries would even consider that.
     
  9. Fullcourt

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    Why would Hump have to sign a 1 year deal in this scenario?
     
  10. juicystream

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    Only if Cavs weren't willing to do a multi-year deal with him.
     
  11. Fullcourt

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    Is it conceivable to think the Cavs might want Hump for multiple years?
     
  12. The Cat

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    Thank goodness there's someone to bring some sanity to the situation. Here's the latest from David Aldridge. Key parts:

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/...ers-in-the-mix-as-fourth-team-in-trade-talks/
     
  13. juicystream

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    I would think so.
     
  14. The Cat

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    If the Cavaliers wanted Humphries, they could sign him themselves. They're under the cap. They don't. In the current trade, Humphries actually has negative value, in the sense that the Nets/Magic are having to give something to Cleveland to take Kris.

    In that scenario, it could conceivably make sense for Cleveland to sign Kris for one year if they could get a late first-round pick out of it. However, a late first-round pick is NOWHERE NEAR enough value for the Cavs to sensibly give a four-year, 36 mil deal (guessing) to a player they didn't want in the first place.

    Of course, nothing about this deal is logical or sensible, so...
     
  15. OremLK

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    Exactly. I strongly suspect that all these rumors are being intentionally floated by Orlando to increase their leverage with other teams (us and LA). They're playing the Nets like a fiddle.
     
  16. RedDynasty

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    BULLSH** UNTIL HOWARD GOES SOMEWHERE!!!
     
  17. juicystream

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    If they want to pay Humpries, their incentive to sign and trade is the 1st round pick. The reason for the involvement is purely because they need Kris' salary to make the salaries work with Orlando, but Orlando not being interested in Kris. That is the logic.

    Deal is too complicated and terrible for the Magic for this deal to go down. Now you are involving 4 teams, and at least 2 players that need to sign off on the deal.
     
  18. JonesDaddy

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    Can't believe that Lopez for the Max is the only thing separating what the Rox can offer and what the Nets are offering.
    Here's Hollinger's Insider scouting report from last summer on Lopez:

    + Big, slow post-up center who almost always turns left shoulder. Good shooter.

    + Blocks shots but a bad defender. Can't guard floor-spacers at all. Won't rebound.

    + Poor passer out of double-teams. Takes bad shots. Overemphasizes drawing fouls.

    Statistically, Lopez is really good. He averaged 23.2 points per 40 minutes last year, which ranked third among centers, and he did it with a solid TS%. Showing his chops as a low-post scorer, Lopez led the NBA in shot attempts from 3-9 feet by a wide margin and shot a respectable 47 percent from that distance. He also punished those who fouled him by shooting 78.7 percent from the stripe.

    Now for the bad news: As the main scoring threat on a bad offensive team, Lopez created shockingly little for his teammates. He ranked 53rd of 67 centers in assist rate and, although he rarely turned the ball over, he forced countless shots into double-teams. Even more often, he would lunge into defenders on a face-up jumper in sort of a slow-motion rip move; this desperate bid to draw fouls failed far more often than it succeeded. He needs to develop better court sense and a drop-step counter to his right-hand dominant post game.

    And now for the really bad part: Defensively, the dude was just worthless. Lopez blocked a decent number of shots, but he was 65th of 67 centers in defensive rebound rate, which is just completely inexcusable. His rebound rate has dropped sharply each of the past two seasons.

    In addition, his lack of mobility was a major burden on defense. He's a bad pick-and-roll defender, often leaving his guard hanging out to dry, and against a pick-and-pop center, he can't stay in the same zip code. Lopez also struggles to get back in transition. Partly as a result, Lopez had the worst defensive plus-minus of any Net, and it's not as if his backups were lock-down defenders.

    One feather in Lopez's cap is that he's always on the floor. He has yet to miss a game in three NBA seasons and has a very low foul rate for a big man.


    Really, this and some picks in the 20's for the best center in the game?
     
  19. The Cat

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    But the Cavs don't want to pay Humphries. That's the thing. That's why they showed zero interest in him before the Nets got desperate, and only wanted to sign him to a one-year deal in this absurd and bizarre scenario.

    The Cavs are years away from contention - they don't want to tie up cap space in a middling veteran. For one year, it may be worth it if they can get a first-round pick out of it. What's there to lose, since they aren't going to be aggressive in FA, yet?

    But for a four-year deal like Ryan Anderson... sorry, for a guy they obviously don't really want, that's WAY too much impact on their future cap and plans to be offset by a late first-round pick. That's where a multi-year deal fails the logic test.
     
  20. juicystream

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    The assumption is purely that the Cavs were preparing to sign him.

    That has since been reported as false. You can't take much from the story today besides Nets still interested.
     

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