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Lobbying for Carmelo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da_Spark, May 6, 2014.

  1. BleedsRocketRed

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    I am somewhat fine with entering the season with what we have right now. Do not extend Parsons, possibly shuffle around our role players. Keep Lin and Asik (at least this offseason) then trade them during the season if needed. Let Lin and Asik expire and make a run for the bigger FA class of 2015.

    Love?
    Bosh?
    Lebron?
    Marc Gasol?
     
  2. ksny15

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    Melo for the MLE
     
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  3. Play07

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    Moreys best bet was trading for rondo when he had the chance and getting rid of $18mill of cap by doing that then only brining back $12mill in cap space for rondo this would’ve left $5mill cap space to get another vet this summer, still have MLE, and see what the team could’ve did with 2 yrs of playoff ball with Rondo,harden,howard, if it didn’t work then we could’ve just let rondo walk and had MAX cap space for 2015 summer as was always the plan.
     
  4. jja620

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    Does Carmelo even play D?
    Last thing we need is another person who only plays offense
     
  5. arabrocket

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    MARC gasol? for what ?
     
  6. houtown

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    I don't think Melo isn't coming to Houston. He is not going to give up a chance to play in NYC for Phil Jackson to come to the Toyota Center. There is no better place to win and play than MSG. Not to mention this team has no structure and the Knicks will have at least the triangle offense and Phil. None of this simplistic run and gun stuff.
     
  7. ForTheWinYes

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    You forgot that the Knicks have no talent and no assets. If he stays in NY, it's because he wants the guaranteed money.
     
  8. Showtyme11

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    I think a more realistic way to upgrade the team would be to acquire Lowry and Milsap
     
  9. Jpripper88

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    We wouldn't have had $5M in cap space and the MLE. And if we used that $5M in cap space and/or the MLE of $5M to sign players we wouldn't have even remotely close to MAX cap space for 2015.

    Just all kinds of wrong.
     
  10. LandryMegaBeast

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    if you guys think melo is bad at defense... watch some kevin love defensive highlights...
     
  11. houtown

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    Well, I don't no about that. The allure of Phil Jackson could attract some players. Not to mention a major part of the Knicks failures was with their team culture. I think NYC is one of the biggest attraction coming into the offseason.
     
  12. SHARKLIN-SOUP

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    Melo wants to play for a coach with a system...he likes Thibs...I don't think McHale is a systems coach. McHale is more like George Karl..& we know how that ended up
     
  13. Phillyrocket

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    The Knicks are capped out between Chandler, jr smith, Amare, and Felton and as an added bonus their lotto pick goes to the Nuggets this year unprotected. They will basically repeat the crap season they just add and waste another year of Melo which he will not tolerate.

    He's gone just like Dwight last year and just like Howard there's only one logical destination.
     
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    Ummmmmmmmmm, we don't have a system?
     
  15. houtown

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    The Rockets barely have a system. Its like free style basketball.
     
  16. Pak14life

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    The rockets could easily tell the Knicks upon receiving a commitment from melo that we can trade lin+Asik to say Philly but would rather work out a sign and trade with you[the knicks] where we have to give up less and you get soemthing back versus nothing.

    Key to that is having the commitment from Melo and scenarios in place if the Knicks call morey's bluff
     
  17. rm365

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    He picked it up the last two seasons defensively.

    He is a legit superstar. Having watched both him and Harden, Carmelo is significantly better at this point in their careers - more versatile (very good at posting up and good size for putbacks) and dependable.

    I think he will end up in Chicago.
     
  18. THE DR34M

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    I believe Houston is the preferred destination for Melo and I believe Morey wants a third star like Melo.

    The only way Melo can get to Houston is by S&T (this is NOT the same situation as Dwight last year, we have $62 million guaranteed and CANNOT create the cap room to sign him outright - and Melo sure as hell aint leaving $25 million on the table).

    S&T is a negotiation between the two teams with an understanding from the player. So what is in the package is negotiable as long as it complies with the rules:

    Non-Taxpaying Teams

    Outgoing salary (Maximum incoming salary)
    $0 to $9.8 million (150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000)
    $9.8 million to $19.6 million (The outgoing salary plus $5 million)
    $19.6 million and up (125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000)

    Key Players
    Melo is due $23.33 million in 2014/15 (Shamsports)
    Rockets would need outgoing salary to be at a minimum $15 million
    Obvious candidates are Asik and Lin = $16.67 million (cap hit)

    I believe Phil Jackson would want Parsons as well because he has had positive comments about him in interviews this year and also something to even the deal out as NY will have to pay Asik & Lin poison pill $15 million cash each (not cap).

    MELO TRADE
    Asik 8.3
    Lin 8.3
    Parsons 0.9

    for

    Melo 23.3
     
  19. THE DR34M

    THE DR34M Rookie

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    my mistake. minimum outgoing salary needs to be $18.3 million NOT $15 million.

    Other players need to be included to make up 18.3 million (but less than 19.6 million)

    Most likely Daniels or Garcia or Casspi.
     
  20. afk

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    Mixed reaction with Melo to Houston. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, there is always Kevin Love next year.
     

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