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LMAO @ France's new tax

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. Northside Storm

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    Grab all the French bankers. They are TRULY productive.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jérôme_Kerviel

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/11/jp-morgan-trader-london-whale

     
  2. BetterThanEver

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    Aren't they net exporters of oil like Saudi Arabia? I bet the Saudis can pay down their debt too.
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    you're thinking more of Norway.

    Denmark might be more "dependent" on oil exports, but it's nowhere near the Saudi level.

    and Sweden is a net importer of oil---that wants to, by 2020, be an oil-free society.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/feb/08/frontpagenews.oilandpetrol

    I'll amend my statement and say they're about the only OECD countries that can pay down their debts. There's a few others, but they tend to fit the same trend---Austria has a high marginal tax rate of 50%, Netherlands is at 52%, and both of their economies have under public debt levels of 60% to GDP.
     
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  4. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

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    Please, indoor voices.

    It's obvious people with ambitious mentalities (whether they're living in a ghetto or a countryside mansion) think a certain way about what they're entitled to. If their best case scenario is maxing out at $1 million a year, it's hard to keep them grounded when there are better options all around them. The international elite have no nationalistic affiliations, they go where they can accumulate and stash.

    Where "easy rich" and idealistic come into play, I don't know.. Safe to say they're merely your insecurities after a once idealistic, rebellious, chubby middle eastern boy turned into a bitter, vindictive, conforming dfsa paper boy on display.

    It's always the media with you lot.
     
  5. durvasa

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    Speaking of insecurities, your need to constantly belittle anyone who you disagree with (anonymously on the internet, a continent away) speaks volumes about yours.

    If you think you have something interesting/intelligent to say about the topic at hand and actually care to discuss it in a serious manner, I suggest you just say it and let your ideas speak for themselves. The incessant taunting doesn't make you look smart; it just makes you look like an ass.
     
  6. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

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    I can't live a lie and I can't sugarcoat what's in front of me. But at the end of the day, I'm a lover .. not a fighter. So come here and give papa bear a big wet one.

    There's no need to hurl expletive filled insults at me because you have nothing to add to the topic.
     
  7. IBTL

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    smart? haha

    he's just trolling.. hating not being american. sucks for some people I guess

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  8. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

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    Ahhh, the classic internet user fallback. Non-socialist/democratic post = troll.

    Must be nice having a repertoire of go-to moves that rivals Brian Scalabrine.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Mathloom, since you seem to be such a fan of the 75 % tax rate - can you please share with everyone here how much income tax you are paying in Dubai?

    Thanks in advance.

    P.S.: Hollande is an idiot.
     
  10. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Translation: I'm not mature enough to express disagreement with another person in a civil, adult manner, so I resort to personal attacks.

    Again, I suggest you try to be better about this in the future. If you heed my advice, you'll be more likely to get a direct response to your actual points -- however intelligent or misguided they may be. Assuming, of course, that's what you're really interested in, and not just making yourself feel better by putting others down.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    durvasa, you remind me a bit of...

    ...

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    0%

    Wana switch?
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes.

    And I knew that and that's why I mentioned it. It's easy being a smartass about how 75 % is "not so bad because it's a marginal tax rate" when you are paying 0 %.
     
  14. IBTL

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    your whole life is trolling. you were born that way. I've come to accept it like a turd on ground when I walk the streets of paris.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    :)

    (does that help?)
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    Haha yes, I wanted to add one like that myself.
     
  17. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Ok so what's the problem exactly? The people who don't care about their community are going to leave, this after previously hiding their money from taxation. Big whoop. No person in that income bracket was ever happy to have it taxed if there was something they could do about it.

    Whatever they lose in a few actors they will make back in an entire generation of children who don't have to worry about basic amenities and can focus on their creative ideas.

    Seems like a good solution for all involved.
     
  18. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    You would switch? You'd rather be an Emirati and pay 0% than be French and pay the marginal 75% tax rate for 2 years? Why do you think it's 0%, do you think we don't have things to pay for here?

    Wow, I didn't think it was even possible to think any less of you.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    First of all, anyone who thinks that a tax increase will indeed only be temporary is delusional. Most of the time, these tax increases are said to be temporary, but then they stick (as is the case in Germany with the "Solidaritaetszuschlag").

    And yes, who wouldn't rather pay 0 % than 75 %? I can just laugh at the chuzpe of you grandstanding about how 75 % is not that bad when you are paying 0 %. It's the same thing as when you complain about an ad on the New York subway when you know full well that in your own country and backyard, a lot more hateful speech constantly takes place, in the other direction.

    Or like when you whine about not enough rights for Muslims in Western countries when your own country discriminates against foreigners, gays, "non-believers", women, etc.

    You do have things to pay for, but of the Emirates, at least Dubai has a debt problem and of course, as we all know, much of the growth and 0 % tax rates for Emiratis and wealthy foreigners has been made possible by exploiting Indians, Pakistanis and other South Asians under slavery-like conditions, something that is still going on.
     
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  20. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I repeat would you rather be an Emirati in Dubai paying 0% or French in Paris paying marginal 75%? Of course everyone would rather be French/German in those countries paying 0%, don't be obtuse.

    Of course your answer indicates that you would rather be in the country where, as you say, exploits people, discriminates against various groups, had a debt problem, etc knowing that in those circumstances you can do virtually nothing to effect changes and will find it easy to rack up the $'s?

    Are you sticking to that answer?

    I'm telling you straight up, I would rather pay the 75% with everything that comes with it.
     

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