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LLULL: Tug-of-war between Real Madrid and the Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ROXTXIA, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

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    OK, it's in Spanish. Basically, we spent all this money to get Llull, but Real Madrid's trying to extend his contract this summer so he finishes his career there.

    Hope springs eternal. Our guy's (Arturas Karnisova, ex Barcelona player and our scouting director) over there to try to convince him to make the jump to the NBA.

    And Llull's buyout is 5 million Euros, although it doesn't break down how that changes if he comes over this year or next year or etc etc.

    http://www.tubasket.com/noticia/rea...pliarle-contrato-remite-clausula/1566061/6304

    Hace casi tres años, los Houston Rockets invirtieron dos millones y cuarto de dólares por comprarle los derechos de Sergio Llull (24 años, 1.90 m.) a los Denver Nuggets.

    Ilusionados y esperanzados han seguido la progresión del base-escolta internacional del Real Madrid, aunque pasan los años y cada vez ven más lejos un posible desembarco del menorquín en Texas.

    En julio de 2010 se llevaron otra decepción: Llull amplió su contrato con el Real Madrid hasta 2014, con un sueldo de casi un millón de euros por temporada. De cumplirlo íntegro, lo acabaría con 26 para 27 años, en plena madurez deportiva para un jugador que lleva destacando desde tan joven.

    Pero Houston no desespera. Hace dos semanas estuvo en Madrid el director de scouting (ojeadores) de la franquicia, Arturas Karnisovas (ex jugador del Barcelona) para ver un entrenamiento del equipo de Pablo Laso, y para intentar convencer, de nuevo, a Sergio Llull de que se replantee la aventura americana.

    Sergio se encuentra plenamente integrado en la capital y además hay un obstáculo casi insalvable a estas alturas de la película: tiene una cláusula de 5 millones de euros, cifra que suele poner el Real Madrid a sus últimos fichajes para evitarse disgustos.

    Por si fuera poco, en las oficinas del Santiago Bernabéu ya están pensando ofrecerle una nueva ampliación este verano, con la que se asegurarían que Llull acabase su carrera deportiva vestido de blanco.

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    Nearly three years ago, the Houston Rockets spent two and a quarter million dollars to buy the rights of Sergio Llull (24, 1.90 m.) To the Denver Nuggets.

    Excited and hopeful have followed the progression-based international escort Real Madrid, even years go by and more and see further a possible landing of Menorca in Texas.

    In July 2010 they took another disappointment: Llull extended his contract with Real Madrid until 2014, with a salary of almost one million euros per season. To comply in full, you end up with 26 to 27 years, in the prime sport for a player who has been standing out so young.

    But Houston does not despair. Two weeks ago in Madrid was the director of scouting (scouting) of the franchise, Arturas Karnisovas (formerly of Barcelona) for a team training Pablo Laso, and to try to convince, again, Sergio Llull rethink American adventure.

    Sergio is fully integrated in the capital and there is an almost insurmountable obstacle at this point in the film has a provision of 5 million euros, Real Madrid usually put their recent signings to avoid unpleasant surprises.

    What's more, in the offices of the Santiago Bernabeu are already thinking about offering a new extension this summer, which would ensure that Llull end his career in white.Undo edits
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  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It's up to Llull. He holds the cards and I wouldn't want a player here who didn't want to be here. If he chooses to turn down the extension then you know he wants to come over and challenge himself but if he chooses to stay in Madrid then good for him.
     
  3. Da Wink

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    if he leaves real madrid, say bye to dragic
     
  4. seclusion

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    You'd think he'd at least be remotely curious about coming over. I'm sure they'd sign him for more than 1m/yr.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I think his buyout is much less the year after next, so I suspect that is when he comes over.

    DD
     
  6. TheRealist137

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    When Real win the champions league and la liga this year he will have won everything there is to win. He'll come over next year
     
  7. gah

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    I smell danger here because Llull seems happy in Madrid and he has always given the impression that the NBA was a good thought but not a MUST for him.
     
  8. Aruba77

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    are you freaking kidding me? You don't let a sure thing walk for a euro-primadona who hasn't played a minute of NBA ball.
     
  9. Yung-T

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    He will stay in Spain imo, I feel like he has no desire to play in the NBA and is more comfortable there being already established.
     
  10. BasketballReasons

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    Yeah those are my feelings exactly.

    Shame though because his game looks like it could make a smooth transition into the NBA.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    I don't know anything about the author, nor do I know a lot of Spanish, but I think this article wanted to sound hopeful.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    That's because that's the end of his contract. No buyout needed. The article is talking about an extension to that
     
  13. crash5179

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    I was thinking bye bye Kyle.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    No, I didn't see a major bias. It just spoke about how much more Madrid wants to keep Llull and that the Rockets scout came to have a few words with him (I'm sure they talked about the extention).

    All these articles about Llull don't really have any thoughts from Llull himself. When he's asked about the NBA he seems to respect it but answers professionally since he is under contract with Madrid. He's got Scola's mindset.



    Bye bye ____. we have no Idea what this team will look like in 2014. Lowry will be a free agent.
     
  15. Air Langhi

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    Is he next up on the treadmill? Klow knocked off AB, Goran knocked off Klow, and Lull will knock off Goran?
     
  16. ROXTXIA

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    The article showed no bias. It was pretty even-handed. Real Madrid wants to keep Llull, Rockets management has hope to sign him.

    But if we want him to come over, we have to trade Lowry or let Dragic (note to Clyde Drexler: DRAHG-itch, like "jock itch") go. Otherwise he sees no role here. (Or we'd trade Llull's rights, but that's less likely.)

    I'd prefer to trade Lowry, if only because we can control to which team, say, somewhere in the Eastern Conference. If it were to a Boston or NY or NJ or especially Philly, he'd even wind up semi-happy about it.

    A bind we'll have here is: if we don't sign Llull now, the more of a chance he'll have to re-sign in Spain. We need to clear cap space and offer him a contract that'll offset that buyout. It'd be a risk, but can we seriously say he won't be worth it?
     
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    You forgot AB knocked off Skip-To-My-Lou
     
  18. sks123

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    I would be very happy to have Llull come in as a replacement for Dragic since he will be paid a whole lot of money and Llull will be much cheaper. I have faith in Morey's pick, and he seems very confident of the guy because the Rockets paid the most money in the history of the NBA for a second rounder so that says something. Ive seen this kid play a few times and he has game. Please come to Houston Llull!!!
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    The thing is that He's under contract till 2014. Lowry will be a free agent by then and we wouldn't have to trade him.

    Buying out Llull early is not an option because it's $5 million euro's. He hasn't even made that in his career so how can he pay the >$4 million dollars to secure the buyout? NBA teams can't contribute >$500,000 for an International players buyout.

    We just have to wait it out and hope he declines an extension.
     
  20. cod

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    5M euros is around 6.5M dollars.

    Buyouts over 500k count towards the cap. Amount is divided equally over the life of the contract. This is why teams want players to pay out of their own pocket.
     

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