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Live: Apple vs. Samsung: jury decision

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  1. Uprising

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    Never owned a Samsung phone....but the suing is making me despise Apple.

    I already can't stand Apple due to their proprietary......grubby hands all over everything.
     
  2. CountyClerk

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    Its time to look into the S3. You can thanks me later.
     
  3. Major

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    Eh - assuming the earlier poster is correct, Samsung might come across better if there weren't internal emails admitting that they were trying to copy Apple's design. That makes it pretty hard to argue that they weren't trying to take from Apple.

    From what I've seen thus far, it seems Samsung purposely tried to copy Apple's design to help their own stuff sell. If that's the case, Apple deserves to win the suit here.
     
  4. Dr of Dunk

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    The funny thing about this whole thing is that Apple offered to license a lot of the technology under litigation to Samsung, but Samsung decided not to do it. Microsoft, on the other hand, said "ok" and took the offer, so their Surface should be safe from much of this litigation.

    Rumor was that Apple was to have charged $30 per phone and I forget what for tablets from Samsung under the licensing deal. They also offered them a discount if Samsung cross-licensed some of their patents to Apple in return. Crazy stuff.
     
  5. Jontro

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    I have a Samsung... but I'm more pissed that Apple is being a douche, since I don't use it too much. Good thing I also have a Blackberry.
     
  6. Uprising

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    Yeah, I'm up for a new phone next month. Not positive what to get yet.

    About time to let my Evo rest in peace....
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    I'm going to pick up a S3. **** Apple.
     
  8. bloop

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    No other android manufacturers, apple and samsung are all in the same boat because they're all inherently based on Xerox's GUI and Bill Gates' Tablet PC

    it's not about Samsung. that **** is so stupid that it will be overturned on appeal.

    the larger question is about restrictive copyright protection and how that affects innovation. copyright was widely adopted 100+ years ago because it was thought to encourage innovation. by incentivizing inventors by giving them increased revenue FOR LIMITED TIME on their innovations

    but like most bureaucratic legal things it's grown larger and larger, and a means of companies to actually stifle their competition. distinct copyright court jurisdiction didn't even exist like 20 years ago but by claiming copyright cases are too complex for normal judges they've increasingly carved out a larger and larger sandbox to intellectually expand copyright scope. now pretty much everything is going to be upheld, I mean it's going to a copyright judge with copyright lawyers arguing the case, even something as stupid as crap that apple took from OTHER companies gets upheld as patented

    how this shakes down is going to dramatically affect not only samsung but every cellphone and mobile device for the next 20 years. hope the US gets it right for once. r****d American jurists who have no clue automatically give the case to apple
     
  9. RedRedemption

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    How patents were supposed to work:
    Brilliant inventor invents something after years of trial and error.

    How patents really work:
    Corporations just stick a bunch of people in a room and tell them to come up with as many ideas, realistic or otherwise, in as little time as possible so they can stick a patent on it and stranglehold any other company that comes even remotely close to having a similar idea.
     
  10. Coach AI

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    It's odd because any research into Samsung would tell you they are a pretty shady company itself. This just happens to be one time it didn't work out - pending appeal. If you look at information from the trial they did themselves no favors.

    There are no saints here.
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    I have a lot of apple gear including an iphone. Its a piece of **** tbh. Its an overpriced aesthetic item. Apart from their macbooks, apple is overrated as ****.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    Go Apple -- sock it to those Korean copy cats. They deserve it
     
  13. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    $30 per phone is nuts! Microsoft doesn't even charge that much! Microsoft and Apple aren't really going after each other here, and that should scare people. As much as Microsoft and Apple claim to be at opposite corners, you would be a fool to think that it's actually true. Apple will never completely own the PC market. If apple passes a 20% marketshare in the PC/Laptop market in the next 20 years I will poop a brick. They are content making money on portable devices and subscription services. Microsoft will be happy if Windows Phone becomes the number 2 or even 3 platform. They will always own the PC market. Windows 8 tablets do not break into the iPad market. Don't be fooled. It breaks into the android tablets' market. The big two are just securing their respective strongholds here. This trial is the equivalent of Ford patenting the notion that a car can have four wheels in the tech world.
     
  14. thadeus

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    Look what the pharmaceutical companies have done with patents ... they're literally putting peoples' lives at risk.
     
  15. bloop

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    lol sadly this is probably the exact decision making processes of the jurists in this case. expect them to be out a week to ten days... they're back in minimum time no questions asked like the OJ case

    thanks r****ds in California. you just took away 7/10th of my options for a phone and just screwed every American company save apple in the mobile technology business
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    Well you can thank the Koreans at Samsung, who tried to leech off all of Apple's hard work. Trying being creative or innovative instead of just copying people. Apple actually innovates.
     
  17. Pizza_Da_Hut

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    Now that is comical. They can innovate on occasion, but they take as much content (if not more) than they generate. The app store? Jailbreakers beat them to it. Notification center? Windows Mobile (not windows phone, windows phone) did something almost identical to it. iPad? You mean that thing Bill Gates went on record saying would be the future of computing years before Apple even had an idea about tablets? Apple does not always innovate, apple capitalizes. That isn't the same thing. I really hope my sarcasm meter is broken and I am just not seeing your sarcasm here...
     
  18. CountyClerk

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    LOL! Apple is the king of copycats bro.
     
  19. Dr of Dunk

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    Respective responses.

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/24/...-september-20th-injunction-hearing/#continued

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    Apple:


    We are grateful to the jury for their service and for investing the time to listen to our story and we were thrilled to be able to finally tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trail showed that Samsung's copying went far deeper than even we knew. The lawsuits between Apple and Samsung were about much more than patents or money. They were about values. At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung's behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn't right.

    Samsung:


    Today's verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer
     
  20. wizkid83

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    Dude, Apple is P-Diddy of the tech industry. It innovates jack squat. Just take other's hits and remix it to be popular.

    That said, I like P-Diddy and despise Apple, because no body that like P-Diddy would claim it's the best music, it's more of a guilty pleasure. But people actually think Apple has legit skills in tech.... nope all marketing and a great stock, but as a tech company, they really don't do anything special.
     

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