Ooh, I must have struck a nerve here - Well, Butthead a couple of things: 1) Who in the **** cares about Floyd writing songs to be "played" on the radio?? Floyd never (well at least in the beginning - I guess that changed somewhat with "The Wall") really were into making "big hits" that would be popular with the mass public. It just so happened that their 2 best albums were so damn incredibly good that everybody and their brother went out and got it. But I could care less if they wrote anything else so new that catches on the classic rock radio stations. I am just grateful that I got to see the classic line-up played. If they ever do re-form and release a new album, then yea I will buy it. I'll be lying if I said I wouldn't be disappointed if it is sub-par, but honestly I would just be very happy to see anything by them. 2) You say you are a fan but I have my doubts about that. Maybe you saw the classic line-up perform or maybe you grew jaded and cynical, but I have a HARD time believing anyone that says that they are a "fan" of this band saying what you said. I don't want to belabor the point but it really is significant that in close to 25 years these 4 guys got back together again to perform. I, along with thousands of other Floyd fans thought that would never happen again. Call it waxing nostalgia, but to see them live whether they are performing new material or not matters to me A LOT. I am sorry that I wasn't as fortunate as you and other people who were Floyd fans back when they were doing "The Wall". But I honestly can't see where you are getting this "as many fans would be disillusioned" as the ones that are happy. Maybe the ones who have been fans since the band was actually performing together - but you ask anyone who became a fan after "The Final Cut" and I guarantee you that they would overwhelmingly say you are nuts. 3) Your analogy of the 1980 Houston Oilers makes no sense as guys like Earl Campbell and Carl Mauck are not going to be able to perform at a reasonably decent level like they did 25 years ago. That is one great thing about music compared to sports - as you get older, you can still perform at a decent level if you don't abuse your body with drugs. And by the way they played tonight, I would have to say that Floyd is still performing at a high level. So your analogy is flawed and smacks of melodrama. 4) I own Bob Dylan's "Love and Theft" along with 14 other Dylan CDs - it was okay but nowhere near as good as "Desire" or "Planet Waves", IMO. You are right that it is better than anything that is out there today but that is going to go without saying. But it is all about taste when it comes right down to it, BMoney. It's cool if you think "Love and Theft" is one of Dylan's best albums as well as a waste of time for Pink Floyd to tour; I disagree with you on both. That is what makes music such a fascinating thing to me - different artists affect different people in different ways. It would be pretty boring if everybody liked the same artists. So, in conclusion - I don't care what anybody says - if Floyd re-forms and tours the US, I am so there dude. And I will be loving every minute of it!
Manny, I think you are correct. Most people wouldn't care if Pink Floyd got back together to tour for whatever reason they decided. You're absolutely correct. Go see them and be happy. I am just not the same "fan" as you are. I don't consider them to be Gods and this appearence wasn't "one of the best things I have ever seen on television," or whatever you were talking about. I merely listen to their music. I think they *were* great. I don't think they have anything else to say. They haven't made any good music since 1980. None of them. Pink Floyd going back on tour would be like the Beach Boys with a light show. Pure nostalgia. If I'm being jaded and cynical about the prospect of a reunited Pink Floyd it's because *they* would be jaded and cynical to flog that beast again when they hate each other and are spent as a creative force. I'm sure they can still play all of the right notes, but I'm not so sure they can remember *why* they needed to be played in the first place. It certainly wasn't for a paycheck.
BMoney, Fair enough but I think you need to give Roger Waters' "Amused to Death" a try (as it is actually worthy to stand next to "Animals", "The Wall", etc.) but for the most part, you are right that Floyd has not done anything revolutionary in awhile. But I am willing to give them several mulligans for that. Meanwhile, I have yet to see The Cure or Roxy Music - two bands in my all-time top 5 and I am pretty pissed about it. Anyone have a link to the complete show on the Net without the annoying commercials and vjs interrupting? If you do, you will be my new best friend.
I'd just like to ask, what's the point of this? Why the push to cancel African's countries' debts? The governments over there are so corrupt and screwed up. Does anyone really think that cancelling the debts of African countries and giving them ever more aid is going to help the average impoverished person over there? Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit that it won't. Cancel their debts and they will be right back in the same situation shortly because the governments over there are so screwed up. This movement would have been much better used to draw attention to Asian Tsunami relief. If Africa is such a pressing problem why wait 20-odd something years to do anything about it? But hey, if it helps celebrities feel good so they can call themselves "socially conscious" then it must be worth it right?
Bob, Either too many people are hitting aol's site or it is not agreeing with my computer. Any alternative links that showed the concert?? Anyone??
Still haven't seen a moment of the Pink Floyd performance... Got home just as the Hey Jude thing was going down... then caught the ABC highlights at the same point... have the London rebroadcast going right now, but I figure they won't get back to Pink Floyd till like 4:00 am or so... Manny, you said you frequent Pink Floyd boards right? Did anyone over there capture the stream of their performance for download? That'd be greeeeaaaaaaaat....
Yea this one dude was going to upload it to yousendit but he was having problems. He said he was going to keep trying. If he gets it working, I will post the link. Meanwhile, I am still jonesing to see Roxy Music and The Cure.
i hadn't really even heard about this until the last few days and didn't even know it was today. would've been cool to watch a little of it, especially switching back and forth on AOL. london and philly were loaded (london was superloaded) so i would've probably spent most of my time there.
Better to do something than nothing. The groups that organized this are not celebrity organizations. These are groups like Amnesty International and the Red Cross - not exactly fly-by-night organizations - most of the same groups that did come together for Asian tsunami relief. In fact, this idea was spurred by the fact that many of these groups had never worked together before and saw how effective they could be after the tsunami. And this isn't just about poverty in Africa. It is about poverty around the globe as well as AIDS prevention. Every country that has received significant aid to fight the spread of disease has seen a huge leap forward in conditions inside the country. So, it has worked and continues to work today. Besides, better to do something than nothing.
I think the Western world could do more for Africa by pressing for the need of honest leaders and corruption-free governments.
Of course it's worth it. They all walk away feeling good with $10,000+ worth of stuff stuffed in their Hugo Boss goodie bags.....Oh, and it was a good deed too. But I am glad they do it because at least it's something.
I know it may be asking too much here, but can we TRY to keep this thread from exploding into a D&D one? Kelly, Roxy Music was at Berlin and The Cure (which you didn't ask about, but I know you care ) was at Paris.
i don't wanna speak for him...but my bet is he is saying that because of the frustration of so many in giving aid to Africa, only to see it wasted by those in power there. i have heard people who've volunteered over there say you can send all the aid in the world, and it won't do a bit of good until the corruption is curbed there.
Yaaaay, finally seen it! For anyone else that needs/wants it, here's a torrent of the Pink Floyd performance without interruption in GREAT quality. Just a warning, it's a DVD ISO so you either need to burn it to a DVD or use a program like Ultra ISO to extract the video files to play on your computer. Guessing you could also mount the ISO as a virtual drive and play it like that. Anyways: http://groovy.serveftp.com:6969/torrent.html?info_hash=d7efeb7d48e00018ca5c4afbc5f058a73e657b46
