Lior Eliyahu

Da Dream · Dec 7, 2010

I had the privilige to take Lior out to lunch one day when he was in houston a few summers ago, he is a real classy guy, very funny, and I wish the Rockets will give him another chance.

RV6 · Dec 7, 2010

HeWhoIsLunchbox said:

Yeah, I did. I saw your post saying you'd rather have him than Budinger. That's the only post about Eliyahu in that thread.
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Should have gone past the first page:

A Kar said:

IMO Eliyahu has more ability and potential than Llull does. Eliyahu could really be a nice player. The problem with him is that he plays literally no defense. He is considered one of the worst defensive players in the Euroleague.

That is really the whole thing that is holding him back. He could also benefit by developing an outside shot, which he does not really have. But he is quite talented though. If he ever started to try on defense he could be quite a good player.

He's basically in the same position as Llull in Euroleague. They are young and talented players and noticeably athletic. However, they are far from what you would consider to be stars. For both of them, they probably fit better in the NBA than in the Euroleague though. The reason being with the defensive 3 seconds rule and the no-hand check rule and the way the refs allow less contact in the NBA, it allows guys like them that can get to the rim and finish to have a lot more easing scoring opportunities than they get in the Euroleague. So many of those dunks and layups that you get in the NBA if you can attack the rim (which they can) are simply not available in the Euroleague due to the rules. They would also probably both fit well in an Adelman offense.

Eliyahu is a power forward and not a small forward. As it seems as with Llull, Morey is advertising these guys at positions that they are not good at. Llull can play point guard, but he does not play well there at all. He plays well at shooting guard and that should clearly be his position.

Eliyahu can play small forward, but without much effectiveness at all. He is much better as a power forward. Rockets fans should understand Llull is a shooting guard and Eliyahu is a power forward.
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RV6 said:

Thanks for the info

Would you say Lior Eliyahu could eventually be better than scola? If so, how soon? And what NBA player's game is similar to his?

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A Kar said:

I don't think Eliyahu could ever be as good as Scola is. The lack of defense is similar though. Eliyahu is definitely a lot more athletic than Scola is. He is also to my eye a bit taller and longer than Scola. He is I would say, 6-9 to 6-10 with fairly good length and maybe 235 or something like that. He could play PF in the NBA easily. He has the size for it and he is also really strong for his size. He looks bigger than Landry for example. His hands are huge.

Eliyahu is basically a guy that would excel on a team like Golden State, Phoenix, the Knicks. On a team where as a big he could run up and down the court and dunk everything and not have to play any defense. He would fit well in Adelman's small lineup.

I am not sure about an NBA comparison, but definitely not Scola in similarity. I would say he is more in the mold of a David Lee type of player, but not that good of a rebounder as Lee is. Or maybe even a Kenyon Martin type of player, but Eliyahu is more mobile and a better ball handler, but a worse defender. Maybe he is like the anti-Kirilenko. Similar player physically and skill-wise, except he isn't as good of a shooter as Kirilenko. But instead of being mainly an all defense guy like Kirilenko, he is an all offense guy. But his physical tools are similar to Kirilenko. I don't think he has nearly that same wingspan though as AK-47, but still pretty good length. He is definitely more suited to play PF than SF. I don't know for sure, it's kind of hard to give an NBA comparison for him. He isn't quick enough laterally to defend the small forward position in the Euroleague.

Neither one of them (Llull-Eliyahu) is in the level of Scola.
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HeWhoIsLunchbox · Dec 7, 2010

RV6 said:

Should have gone past the first page:
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My bad, don't know how I missed that the thread was 2 pages.

Pete Chilcutt · Dec 7, 2010

Thanks RV6 I did not read that thread

A Kar · Dec 9, 2010

HeWhoIsLunchbox said:

I heard that he recently signed a 5 year deal with Maccabi Tel Aviv
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Yep, that is true.

GoRoc · Dec 9, 2010

I'm from israel, i watch Maccabi's games every week.
He is great with his front to the basket, but i don't think i ever saw
him try a post up.
Oh, and he is a lame defender.

waytookrzy079 · Dec 9, 2010

wow..i should have watched that video at home.. i just scared a bunch of ppl at work with that video... "count the basket...! LEE ELI-AHHHHHH-OOOOOOO!!" lol

alethios · Dec 9, 2010

Da Dream said:

I had the privilige to take Lior out to lunch one day when he was in houston a few summers ago, he is a real classy guy, very funny, and I wish the Rockets will give him another chance.
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After seeing this, so do I (or maybe it's the music in this video that makes him rock more, IDK):
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Steve_Francis_rules · Dec 9, 2010

Don FakeFan said:

He is better than Chase but no chance to make the team
another wasted pick.
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How was it a waste pick? He was taken in the middle of the second round. It's very rare for those guys to ever make it in the league. There are only two guys who were taken after him in that draft that have really done anything in the league (Paul Millsap and Leon Powe).

HMMMHMM · Jun 25, 2012

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Macc TLV forward Lior Eliyahu to hold summer workouts w/HOU <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Rockets">#Rockets</a>. Despite remaining 2-year deal w/MTA, Eliyahu owns <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523NBA">#NBA</a> out. @<a href="https://twitter.com/one_co_il">one_co_il</a></p>— David Pick (@IAmDPick) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/217249044685266944" data-datetime="2012-06-25T13:33:03+00:00">June 25, 2012</a></blockquote>
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delishman · Jun 25, 2012

Wow that's pretty cool. Glad to see them keeping tabs.

I wonder if they just like Brad Newley walk off into the sunset.

Jamers · Jun 25, 2012

that annoying announcer is worse than eliyahu

Carl Herrera · Jun 25, 2012

Jamers said: ↑

that annoying announcer is worse than eliyahu
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It was Vegas summer league. Pretty sure they found a strip club DJ to do the PA announcer job.

kjayp · Jun 25, 2012

SamFisher said: ↑

I heard he and Malick Badiane were starting up a falafel stand in Hamburg.
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lol!!

withmustard · Jun 26, 2012

HMMMHMM said: ↑

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Macc TLV forward Lior Eliyahu to hold summer workouts w/HOU <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Rockets">#Rockets</a>. Despite remaining 2-year deal w/MTA, Eliyahu owns <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523NBA">#NBA</a> out. @<a href="https://twitter.com/one_co_il">one_co_il</a></p>— David Pick (@IAmDPick) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/217249044685266944" data-datetime="2012-06-25T13:33:03+00:00">June 25, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Thanks for keeping us posted. Turned out to be very relevant.

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