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Linsanity the Movie

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bball7, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. Billionzz

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    I really don't know why it's so hard for you to understand.

    Yes, some people are racist, some people in Hollywood are racist.

    but

    People care more about money than being racist. If Hollywood could make more money on a film with an Asian actor as the lead man then they would do it and wouldn't think twice about it, what they care most about is money, plain and simple. There are plenty of black actors as lead men, Denzel Washington, Will Smith to name a few. I'm sure that one day there will be an Asian lead man, maybe Jeremy Lin. :) You really need to stop blaming everything on race, it's all about the money.
     
  2. zdrav

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    What on earth are you talking about?

    Jeremy Lin has been extremely candid on what his thoughts are on the impact that his race has had on his basketball career. He's talked about being mistaken for a trainer at MSG, or about how he's annoyed at being called "deceptively quick", or how he knows that everybody tries extra hard to outplay him because they don't want to get beat by the Asian kid.

    Yes, Jeremy Lin doesn't let racism weigh him down. But unlike you, he actually acknowledges that it exists.
     
  3. zdrav

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    If there was an Asian actor who could guarantee a $100 million box office opening, would Hollywood put him in every movie? You bet.

    But those kinds of stars are once in a generation. What about "normal" actors who may need a few swings of the bat before they hit it out of the park?

    The problem is that the standard for Asians are impossibly high. Either they have to be as bankable as Will Smith right out of the gate, or they get nothing.

    Meanwhile, white guy actors are given chance after chance despite bomb after bomb. Somebody's gonna give Taylor Kitsch a shot down the road, even if he was the face of "Battleship" and "John Carter". Imagine if he were Asian; unless his movie opened like "Avatar", Hollywood would just proclaim that Asians are inherently unbankable and unappealing or some stuff like that.
     
  4. zdrav

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    Jason Scott Lee? Tamlyn Tomita?

    Come on now.

    Why not bring up Sessue Hayakawa and James Shigeta while you're at it? Oh yeah, and Blacks should never complain because of Hattie McDaniel! She got an Oscar after all!
     
  5. kianainhi

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    A little diversion. Jubilee Project partnered with the Jeremy Lin project.

    Found this on Heisjeremylin.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qKALg_VE_UY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  6. gamer4Life

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    The problem is that it's akin to having white-only establishments - catering to a group who can't stand being in the presence of other races. In this case, it's catering to people who can't stand watching other races as lead men. This is ethically wrong, but it's hidden under the guise of "finding the right man for the role". It doesn't have to be that way - audiences in Asia are able to throw money at Hollywood movies despite the cast being non-Asian.

    This typecasting causes stereotypes to form, discrimination, and the dumbing down of society as a whole. Despite the number of black actors available, they are still being typecast and held out of awards.

    http://themisprint.com/golden-globes-2013-exciting-night-of-white-people-giving-each-other-awards/

    It's amazing that there are some people who not only are accepting of the status quo, but who try to shout down those who voice their opposition to the status quo.
     
  7. iJHolmes

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    I don't understand how Yao doing his job stirred up so much. he wasn't saying he was a self-hating asian. but other asians(assuming the ones that accused him) tend to think otherwise. the guy had a good point. its about money, not your feelings or what you think.

    i dont see many of these self hating asians, if an asian person doesn't hang around other asians a lot then people are going to assume they don't like their own race? because we're so used to seeing asians only hanging out with other asians? thats a stupid way to think. However i have noticed quite some racism from them. Try dating their daughter, thats when the real racism and hate will show lol
     
  8. Luca

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    It is weird reading through all the comments but what I want to say is racism does exist in every country really. I have seen it in France as I grew up there, in England after having spent 9 years and now in HK. I do feel that in Asia people have a little bit more tolerance for foreigners (white, black & other Asians) but to a certain degree racism still exists.
    I vividly remember that when Lin was heading to Houston, some fans just went ballistic with all the race slurs on either his Facebook or even on forums which make me feel so uncomfortable and till today they still make fun of him by saying C---N in the armor.
    I do feel really bad for him or for any player in that matter to have to go through that.
     
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  9. Luca

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    I agree with your argument here. My female friend is Lawyer Partner and British born Chinese told me that she had to really work hard and fight for everything just because of her race.
    She even told me that she is the only non white and female to have succeeded with lots of backstabbing from white male colleagues.
    Even George Lopez said some time ago that it is very difficult for minorities to get into his industry but hey he is successful and good for him. In this case Jeremy is one of other cases.
     
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  10. gamer4Life

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    The problem here, is some people are content with the status quo, and against anyone voicing out against inequality. In fact, they'll be more active speaking out against these people than the people themselves. It even becomes a personal mission for them. The tactics they use:

    - "stop whining"
    - "everyone is racist"
    - "there will always be racism"
    - "person X is successful, therefore racism doesn't exist"
    - "it's all about money" (without addressing the cause)
    - "it's just a joke"
    - etc..

    All of this is just a way of keeping the status quo, either to protect their privilege or their Uncle Tom status.

    Anyway, Jeremy Lin's documentary is a worthwhile project, I'm especially interested in the scenes where he was at his lowest point. Hope it doesn't do too much religious preaching, or show him practicing his 3 pointers :cool:
     
  11. zdrav

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    The problem with YaoMac is NOT that he's abstaining from staging a futile one-man revolution in his own firm. He's perfectly within his rights to manage his career in the way that best suits his personal interests.

    However, minorities also have the greater responsibility of recognizing that perpetuating the unfair status quo is not in the best interest of society, and that they should try to do what they can do improve the situation for the next generation. At the very least, a person like YaoMac can acknowledge that there are institutional problems with regards to Asians and representation in America.

    But he won't even do that.

    Instead, he seems to have the attitude that since he's got his, he's not gonna rock the boat. This is a very typical immigrant Asian mentality, and one that a lot of young Asian-Americans are trying to disavow. Because the thing is even if you have your Ivy League degree and your solidly upper-middle-class income, it still doesn't matter if you're still seen as an unpatriotic, weak, wannabe white, and insecure social underclass.
     
  12. bball7

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    Sounds like the premiere was a success.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Laughs, tears and cheers at finale! We are so humbled! Lively Q&amp;A session now. <a href="http://t.co/kuL9QJJj" title="http://twitter.com/LinsanityMovie/status/293137916748783617/photo/1">twitter.com/LinsanityMovie…</a></p>&mdash; LinsanityMovie (@LinsanityMovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/LinsanityMovie/status/293137916748783617" data-datetime="2013-01-20T23:28:20+00:00">January 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The best movie @<a href="https://twitter.com/sundancefest">sundancefest</a> : @<a href="https://twitter.com/linsanitymovie">linsanitymovie</a>...tears streaming down my face the whole time. Truly inspiring in so many ways. A MUST see!</p>&mdash; Selah Victor(@Selah_V) <a href="https://twitter.com/Selah_V/status/293136974024413185" data-datetime="2013-01-20T23:24:35+00:00">January 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  13. HAYJON02

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    Spending the week in Park City and got in to see this earlier today. As a Rocket fan, and someone who is still on the fence about Lin, I enjoyed it, but the rest of the crowd seemed just as entertained. It's no Year of the Yao, but still worth watching.

    Also, I snapped a pic of Serbian Daryl Morey at a Q&A.
     
  14. Ynnis888

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    Goosebumps!
     
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    If any of you fine folks are going to Sundance this year, Please go see the new Chan Park film, Stoker and tell me what you think... It's my most anticipated film of the year and I'm a fan of the director's earlier work, 'Oldboy.'
     
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    It's 2013, the only thing America wants to see right now is Glitter vampires and Saw 135...
     
  18. CantGoLeft

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    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogssundanceblog/55667619-50/lin-leong-didn-documentary.html.csp

    (This is the same review link I posted earlier today)
    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogss...lin-linsanity-documentary-basketball.html.csp
     
  19. gamer4Life

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    They should keep the film rolling, who knows what might happen next... NBA Finals MVP? :grin:
     
  20. Haymitch

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    I would love to see it at the Sundance theatre in Houston
     

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