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Lin's second half vs. Lowry's "all-star span"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. jocar

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    And this started b4 Lowry was moved. He stopped driving and started shooting 3's
     
  2. BigggReddd

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    If it weren't for Lowry's injuries he would be a borderline all star.
     
  3. roxxy

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    Sigh. I knew somebody would take it as me blaming somebody else. Casey & Lowry have had issues with one another. it has been well publicicsed by Raptors beat writers. Casey wants Lowry to play a certain way & has liited him in certain aspects these are facts. Lowry didn't regress Casey limited him. Casey himself said this publicly that he can't play the way he used to play, that there are certain things I want him to do. Also Lowry playing alongside Gay a ball dominant forward & Derozan an inefficient below average SG doesn't help.

    Also in regards to Lin you need to understand that there are only so many possessions available. Harden is the best player on this team so he will get a lot of touches. Then you have to feed the big men, then Parsons will need tocuhes & so will the bench so there are only a few possessions available for the PG. It is a fact that Lin goes to the line a lot more in games Harden doesn't play. Why? Because he gets more touches when harden doesn't have the ball & therefore more opportunities to draw fouls.

    I thought it was common sense that when you add more talent everyody ends up sacrificing some. If Harden wasn't on this team, parsons would be leading us in FGA & Lin would be second.

    Just a few thoughts
     
  4. jocar

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    I know what you're saying, less chances, less driving.

    This is not about number of attempts of getting to the rim. I'm talking about when they get to the rim they're more likely to bail out now, when before they would've went hard all the way. It's not about sacrificing anything for anyone, it's about something they either lost (mentally or physically) or chose not to do as much. Like I said this happened before Lowry went to Toronto. Maybe Lowry lost the desire to play hard for a team that benched him for Dragic. He chose to shoot rather than penetrate. Some ppl said Lin stopped putting his body at risk because he wasn't getting foul calls anymore, and he was getting hurt for nothing. etc.
     
  5. TheRealist137

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    in this case we are talking about 3 pointers only. Not midrange. There is no way Lin shoots better threes off the dribble than he does set shots.
     
  6. Karolik

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    Iguodala is underrated. He was responsible for most of the success in Philly last year. Look at Philly now. I wish we had an Iguodala on this team.

    OH and andre miller carrying Denver offensively now.
     
  7. Nook

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    You did cherry pick stats.. You left out rebounds, free throws, TS, OWS and DWS all of which favored Lowry.

    Not sure why it matters, Lowry got us Harden and Lin is a solid player and may well continue to improve.
     
  8. Nook

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    Iggy is not underrated. He is a mediocre offensive player and the struggles in Philadelphia extend beyond Iggy.
     
  9. roxxy

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    When Harden doesn't play Lin goes to the foul line a lot more. That is a fact & not a coincidence. And Lin himself has said in Houston I don't mind if they bang me up as long as I get to the FT line. That doesn't sound like a mental adjustment to me.

    In regards to Lowry sure maybe he did kind of quit on the team when he was benched by McHale. But in Toronto heis a lot limited in what he can do. His job is to force fead Gay & spot up for 3's. That kind of situation doesn't lend itself to drawing contact.
     
  10. kuku

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    How can Igoudala be underrated when he is on a $15M contract? If anything, he is overrated by his contract. You simply don't pay perimeter defender w/ limited offsensive skills that kind of money, even if he is the best in the league.

    MGasol, Love, LMAldrige, and Griffin who are all better players on contracts less than Igoudala.
     
  11. rocketsfan4

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    Lin shoots far better off the dribble than off the catch and shoot, both midrange and 3-pointers. The numbers bear them out by far, as he was one of the best off the dribble shooters in the NBA. There was a huge gap between the two types of shots last year in NY, but the gap has narrowed as he has improved his catch and shoot this year.
     
  12. Rocketman1234

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    I hate when people compare lin to dragic or lowry. Especially lowry!

    I live in Canada so I watch the raptors a lot.

    Seriously, lowry sucks. He gambles too much on defense and takes too many threes when he cant even shoot!

    So when people glorify these players like they are the second coming of steve nash, it pisses me off.
     
  13. Clutch

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    You've seen Kyle Lowry play? Cool... none of us have seen him play before.
     
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    I live on Clutchfans and I hate all these Lin threads.
     
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    Do you think the relationship with your father has anything to do with it?

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  16. Old Man Rock

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    Lin is playing solid. He is the point guard. He needs to run the show and not defer to Harden. Yes Harden is the star but Lin is the leader. It's his job to get the ball to Harden in favorable situations. Not to give the ball to Harden and move out of the way while he ISO's.
     

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