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Lin's scrutiny

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kaitanuva, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. kinein

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    Raging.. Your staring lazer bolts into him Apollo.

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  2. kinein

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    Hah, Vida Guerra
     
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    :grin:
     
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    I think its part attachment and part emotion - watching the battles Lin has gone through has been inspirational and emotionally endearing to all the people that believe that being a good person and hard-work and effort ------> despite all the lemons you get === eventually youll be recognized and rewarded.

    For those that are fans of Lowry - Lowry IS a great player, HAS a great work ethic, IS a gamer.

    They just don't necessarily like having their favorite couch taken up by Lin when Lowry had a VIP reservation on the right side with the extra cushion.

    Anyone that looks at it just by the numbers since Lin broke-out and compared it by Usage Rate, Efficiency ratings, PER, and 4th Q - Will to Win. Would say he's just as good and exciting as many of the top guards --- WHEN THEY were also in their FIRST 50 games as a starter!

    After I saw Lin chase down Derrick Rose and block his shot from behind - I was st-st-st-st-stunned. Never knew Lin could fly that high and go THAT fast.

    When he stripped D.Rose mid SPINMOVE (note DRose has the FASTEST spin move in the NBA or 2nd fastest ) - it was GOLD. Im not saying Lin is better than DRose but his potential to improve from that and grow since he's just really beginning his career- is amazing.. Watching D.Rose Chalmers Rondo and everyone else come out every game - playing with that competitive edge you rarely see before the playoffs made those games even FUNNER!

    Theres much more investment emotionally and mentally on the field as a gamer and even as a fan when everyones upping their game to perform at a higher level. Hoping Lin can get to that place again mentally and physically so he can compete - its coming, seeing bits and flashes but right now that team needs more time to bond and build chemistry. Those guys have to trust and believe in each other and want to play their hearts out for each other.

    For the most part I think Clutchfans is very well-balanced, theres just a few very extreme folks that aren't ready to move on - but the sudden love-affair that has transitioned to the Clutchfans must be a turn-off to them. Kinda like when your emotionally at a low after breaking up - and theres a couple 2 feet away making out and making oodgee boojee i love you snookums noises to each other. As with all heartache, give them all time to do some soul-searching and find their happy place.

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  5. Kwame

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    Lol, at the sensitive Lin fans who just joined this website three months ago and are already complaining that he's being criticized unfairly. I'm sure you guys had no problem when he was being hyped up during "Linsanity," which didn't even come close to half an nba season.

    I've been accused of being a hater and all that stuff in the past, but my critiques of other players were never personal and people shouldn't take criticism of their favorite player personally. Blind support, hero worship, and homerism are worse issues imo, because they take away from critical analysis.

    Anyway, this is Clutchfans... Nobody is above criticism.

    Either get used to it or feel free to leave.
     
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  6. lightningbolt

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    Okay, if 5 games isn't enough for you, how about 25 games?
    NY Times: How Good Will Lin Be?
    Jeremy Lin Is No Fluke, Continued
    Jeremy Lin and Historical Comparisons
    25 Games, 25 Million: Using 25 Games to Predict a Full Season
     
  7. slickster

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    I agree, and I've speculated that the LOH? haters are not that big of a group. They just go apesh-t however when Lin receives any praise or attention at all.

    They aren't able to argue facts, they just start to stutter and ramble incoherently, as apollo33's post so aptly demonstrates. In fact, the LOH's get MAD if you cite facts. It drives them nuts! Because they don't have a counter for it!

    So they resort to passive aggressive pseudo attacks. It's really bizarre and quite hilarious at the same time!
     
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    LMFAO, okay, you want "arguments" about Lin and Dragic, here are some stats of both as starters last season

    FG% 3FG% FT% Min PPG TRP Assists
    .490 .379 .839 36.5 18.0 3.5 8.4
    .445 .343 .796 34.0 18.2 3.7 7.7

    Oh look case closed Dragic is better, you mad?

    You want more stats

    Dragic's TS% was 61%
    Lin's TS% was 55%

    I can regurgitate this shet everytime someone says Lin is better than Dragic, but I don't do that because I know that a 25 game sample size don't mean shet in the grand theme of things, and the stats of the players I just posted doesn't "case closed" prove one player is that much better than the other.
     
  12. Coban Hutton

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    Harden and Lin are young and exciting.

    The NBA is a business.
     
  13. MKL

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    Dragic stock would have raised above Lin if Houston got in the playoffs last season. They had a pretty bad run the last 10 games in the season. Not sure if that's the reason why Morey let Dragic walk. It is pretty strange that he walked away for nothing, considering his talent.

    Lowry just burn bridges everywhere he goes, he burned bridges with Memphis too. He's a great player, but he tend to lean towards Heroball a little to much.

    Houston is not a big basketball city, but the rest of the country was paying attention. Houston was almost sure to get the 8th seed, but they choked Where as Knicks fought from 10th place to get a spot in the playoffs and Lin was the spark that started it. That and his unbelievable story. Lin just have more charisma than Dragic.

    Each player has their merits, but you're not going to hear Dragicsanity any time soon in Phoenix, but I'm sure he's happy with his player option. I do watch the Phoenix and Toronto games on LP as well, I just like watching ball. Some players have star power and some not so much.
     
  14. Horry4theWin

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    Wasn't Dragic a unrestricted free agent? In that case, Morey didn't have much to offer besides a sign and trade, which would have been nice but Phoenix probably wanted to get something done quick when they knew they were going to trade Nash.
     
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    So, maybe Dragic wanted the player option all along? Morey said in multiple interviews that he didn't do player options.

    But if Morey could have traded Dragic before the deadline, he could have done a S&T. But I forget when Dragic took over from Lowry. Maybe this was after the deadline.

    It's kind of crazy that Rockets went through 3 starting PG in 1 year. But we are rebuilding. Just ahead of schedule.

    Did Morey think he had a chance with DWill? Or did he think he can sign Sessions and upgrade to CP3? He can still trade Lin for CP3, or assets towards that goal.

    Dragic walking is hard to reason out. Maybe it's just the player option like Morey said.
     
  17. slickster

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    You neglected to point out that Lin eventually had to defer to both Carmelo and Amare. Dragic had to defer to....Scola.

    You also neglected to mention that Lin was playing in pain and hobbled for a large portion of those games.

    You also fail to acknowledge that Lin had a greater peak than dragic.

    You also neglect to mention the knicks winning streak, which Lin almost single handedly engineered, with a bunch of role players, without the support of the A listers.

    You also neglect to mention that Lin literally single handedly rescued the knicks from the lottery.

    You also neglect to mention that Lin has set several NBA records, whereas dragic has not.

    You also neglect to mention that Lin destroyed the Lakers on national TV. Dragic did not.

    We've seen plenty of players play well once they get a shot at starter's minutes.

    But NO ONE has duplicated much less surpassed what Lin did last season. Still FACT. You still mad? LOL!
     
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  18. slickster

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    As DRob recently stated, Jeremy Lin has a certain "je ne sais quo..." :grin:
     
  19. kinein

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    Really? ;p

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  20. Chef_Monteur

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    Just from my own observation it seems like Lin has lost some of his explosiveness from last year. Part of it may be that he's coming back from a knee injury.

    The good sign though is that he's moving the ball around well and he's hitting some big shots when needed, clearly the guy has clutch potential which is something you can't teach. Lowry and Dragic were great players but neither guy was particularly clutch, imo.
     
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