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Lina Hidalgo's Self-Absorption

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, Feb 3, 2022.

  1. VooDooPope

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    Tell her to ask Ken Paxton how to skirt the legal system while staying in power.
     
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    All she has to do is state that election was stolen. Should be enough to secure her seat.
     
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    I work in sales and government contracts are almost always awarded with some level of contact made ahead of time. Every time there is an RFI or RFP that comes my way I reach out to someone similar to these three to ask for some discovery and it’s not uncommon to get a call with a lower level person. That doesn’t mean there was corruption. Only a vendor trying to craft a proposal that meets the needs of the government.

    I suspect this is likely a political smear campaign but we’ll see. Democratic AG’s are so incredibly worried about having overwhelming evidence and intent while Republicans know they have both the propaganda networks as well as the ignorant voting base to simply not care about the conviction and only care about the perception of wrongdoing more than the evidence.

    Of course I don’t know the evidence here so I’m speculating but I’m telling you now as someone who regularly submits government RFP’s, I see a political hit job on a likely honest attempt to just have an effective vaccine roll out to save lives. I’ll put tip jar money down right now that never secure a conviction and if they do it’s something very light because the judge knows it’s a waste of government resources to lock away first offenders for something like this. It’s not like they secured 2 billion dollars from the Saudis for helping cover up a murder of a journalist or something. You want to talk corruption cases…
     
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    I’ll help you Lina
     
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    With Republicans supporting fascism more and more I can never vote for them.
     
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    If Hidalgo did it, she should be punished. If she didn’t then her critics can kiss her ass.
     
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    Clearly this means ALL liberals are evil and don't respect heroes!

    That's the point of this thread right? Otherwise why does they need to put, "Democrat" in the video as the first word?
     
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    Sounds like some people are trying to politicize something that really doesn't need it. Feels like all of this right wing outrage does nothing more than to further disrespect this dead officer's life
     
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    Justice is blind
    Or is suppose to be
     
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    I have a somewhat similar role, facing government for a corporation. Talking with officials isn't that weird, but they are alleging more than that. Not only did they have an insider connection, allegedly the staffers undermined a bid from another competitor.

    Also, it is common to see sabre rattling from blowhard politicians for political gain, but this is an actual indictment. That means a grand jury ruled there was enough evidence to bring it. Also, the DA in this case is Kim Ogg, not some Ken Paxton flunky.

    I might feel differently about it if they are acquitted in the end. But I take the view that politicians are expendable. It could just be that as a neophyte she didn't know better than to allow the appearance of impropriety (its happened before), but that's enough for me to dump a politician and find someone else.
     
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    Kim Ogg is very upset with the Harris County Commissioner’s Court. They approved mall funds requested for the Public Defenders but not as much as Ogg requested for the DA’s Office. Kim Ogg and her supporters in the bond I.e insurance companies are very upset that nearly all misdemeanors now need no bonds. The Sheriffs and police do not like this. Kim has political fish to fry. So she might not be neutral
     
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    Are you engaging in some mental gymnastics to conclude that it isn't Hidalgo's staffers, who have indictments against them, who are crooked, but instead it's Kim Ogg who is corrupt? I mean it's not impossible. And the staffers haven't been convicted so I'll with old judgment. But Occam's Razor probably dictates that if one of the two parties is corrupt, it's probably the staffers. Why twist yourself into a pretzel to conclude otherwise unless you have some emotional stake in the outcome.
     
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    We'll see when the evidence comes out and if they get acquitted. However you are right that if Kim Ogg is the lead prosecutor and it's her discretion, it gives the claim much more credibility. If this was coming from Ken Paxton's tree of corruption then it would seem like a pretty obvious smear given how common it is to only use the RFP process as a formality when public officials already have a hand picked vendor they have ties to. Not saying it's right, but it happens far too often.

    It would be pretty crazy for the Democratic voters in Harris County to boot Hidalgo because of this when in contrast we have Ken Paxton, and Gregg Abbott surviving and thriving in far worse corruption, but I do still believe we do have to resist the urge to keep in power strong politicians who have baggage. Democrats have to be saints while Republicans can literally pay no price for trying to overturn a national presidential election.

    The good news is I have some really good friends who have worked hard to come up the ranks in Harris County government so I know there are good people waiting in the wings if people like Hidalgo and Turner need to be moved on from. I know Turner has royally pissed off HPD and Houston Fire & Rescue after their groups supported him in the election so I know he's got liability too. But we'll see how it shakes out over the coming weeks, but I feel good about Houston as a hub for good Democratic leadership moving forward. Much better than I do about the state as a whole.
     
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    All partisanship aside, I'm trying to understand how anybody, on any side, could have been displeased with Ed Emmett. His Harvey response alone should have earned him everybody's respect.
     
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    I don't think it was as much "anti-Emmett" as she was a young attractive Democrat in a heavily Democrat election (Emmett knew he had to convince Democrats). I am not in Houston (city or county) but I believe there was some unhappiness with flood control in that election. He wasn't completely popular with republicans though... he wasn't right-wing enough.
     
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    I liked Emmett. I was surprised and disappointed to see him go - even though I voted against him (in 2018, I had (and still have) a complete boycott of all Republicans because of Trump). He got caught in the anti-Trump wave. But he's old and would be retiring by now anyway. And Hidalgo seems like a very capable replacement. It's disappointing she might be crooked.
     
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    Forgive me but I just find that kind of approach when going to the polls completely foolish and ignorant. This attitude is why we have incredibly underqualified district court judges letting dangerous criminals back into the streets with no bond/low bond.

    You just straight up said you were disappointed to see Emmett go but you admittedly voted against him on the basis he shares a party affiliation with Trump.

    I'm sorry but that is just....stupid.
     
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  18. JuanValdez

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    Sorry you don't like it. Get Trump off the ballot and I'll drop the boycott. Your approach of compartmentalizing politicians is why we have a crooked wannabe dictator as a viable candidate for president.

    In my view, no matter how good a politician might be in his role, if he consents to have an (R) next to his name, he's complicit in the maintenance of Trump's political power. Now, Ed Emmett is an old guy at the tail end of his career. Dropping the (R) would probably have sunk his candidacy. I'd have been really surprised if he took a stand in those circumstances and left the party of Trump. I don't blame him. At the same time, he's complicit so he's out. Like I said, politicians are disposable. I'm just as willing to dump him as I am Hidalgo and we'll find someone else.

    As to the dangerous criminals, I'm one of the guys who wants to see the abolition of cash bonds. You're innocent until proven guilty, and how much money you have shouldn't be relevant. So I'm sure you have much more to consider foolish than just my voting strategies.
     
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  19. SuraGotMadHops

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    Yikes.....I don't know if you watch Better Call Saul, but you with a voter registration card is like a chimp with a bazooka.
     
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    Straight ballot winner but no indictment so she is innocent like deshaun.
     
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