Ok it's hard to have a record of 15-10 when he has only started 24 games. Few problems with your calculations: 1) Rockets are 15-9 in the games he has started (16-9 in the games he has played) 2) With a record of 27-15, that means they have a record of 11-6 when he doesn't play. When he starts their winning percentage is 57.69% (64% when he plays-he played 29 min when he didn't start) and 64.7% when he didn't play at all. Now you also have to remember that this was in the beginning of the year when our team was still learning to play with a center like Dwight, and we were experimenting with the Twin Towers.
Nick my response had NOTHING to do with Beverly playing. I was just responding to the starting aspect. I think that Beverly makes a GREAT compliment at the PG position. MUCH more so than Brooks.
Actually I try to support with evidence, trying to further a discussion. Those that are arguing wit hme are basically name calling. I'm open minded but to just say "Lin is OBVIOUSLY not as good as _____(fill in the blank)" is what I would consider inciting all this venom. Give me some numbers to back your "opinions"
Why is this obvious. Perhaps they are trying to increase Bev's trade value by starting him. His low cost notwithstanding.
This is true and if I were Mchale I would not necessarily start Bev. However, perhaps the powers that be are trying to boost his trade value, even though he is getting the minimum, I think.
Thanks for taking the time to analyze...I took out the games where he had zero minutes and the one he had 10 minutes and you're right it was 12-6 and 15-9.
And at 15-9, a change in one game could have made that 16-8 - the exactly the same percentage as 12-6. For all practical purpose that analysis (with it's ridiculously small sample) says it really made no difference.
So you just like to attack people who say something critical about Lin that you don't agree with. And have nothing to back it up with. Gotcha.
Lin's in a slump right now. From last year's all star break to his recent knee injury, Lin was progressing at an almost exponential rate. Everything was ticking upwards. But since he missed those 10 games, he's been off, most notably his 3pt shooting. Maybe there's something still wrong with his body.
So you feel that 100% of the variance in point/win when Bev is on the court is due to his presense. Look at the context of all the games that Bev and Lin. played. Who was injured etc. Your attributing 100% of the variance in the wins record when Bev. played is a great streach in logic.
You don't understand. I am saying that you have nothing to back up your opinions about Lin's state of mind. Nobody has, unless they are mind readers.
The Clippers are 23-13 (57% win rate) with CP3 and 5-1 (80% win rate) without him. I'd say the facts show they are better without him. Next!
That's why it's an opinion. And you shouldn't take it so personally. Lin is not your 9 yr old daughter.
that's what your fellow LOF just did 5-man lineup's +/- does not have to take in consideration who of the non-starters are injured or not playing or playing badly
Agreed...I was just responding to the assertion that Bev was clearly the better starter. But truth be known, I'm ready to join the camp that Lin (or any ball dominant PG) is not a good fit for this team.
