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Lin making the case for being a starter?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. Panda23

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    Fixed it for ya
     
  2. Crunchyball

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    so whats the verdict man ? BEV is healing and getting back. I guess tomorrow's game is the REAL test.
     
  3. JJHardLin

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    Honestly he should be starting. His inconsistencies are killer but if he gains more chemistry with Dwight then you got 3 players who can run the PnR in our starting unit, that's solid. Most of you may not be fans of small backourts but I think Bev can survive playing as a backup 2 from time to time. There's no backup sg's who are killers off the bench and bev is strong enough to handle them imo. Brooks can run the 1 spot so we don't lose that scoring ability off the bench and bev can play at the 2.
     
  4. rokit

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    Individual defensive stats according to Synergy

    Isolation: Lin allowing 0.67ppp/ 26.3 FG%
    Bev 0.88ppp/38.9 FG%

    Pick and Roll: Lin allowing 0.77ppp/37.5 FG%
    Bev 0.76pp/36.2 FG%
     
  5. Hrock

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    Dont worry, some veterans and new joins will just call you an LOF, even though majority of Lin supporters are Rockets fans. I was all about trading Lin for an upgrade, but not for anything worse. I was all about starting Bev or handing him more playing time depending on the situation. Right now Lin is making a pure showing for why he should start. But people will just call me an LOF, then keep crying about how we get upset over anything that criticizes Lin, if you support Lin at all its an offense to them. I've been a Rocket fan for a long time, just joined this site even though I've been lurking for awhile now because I heard about (just like everyone else) Lin in NYC and was intrigued to see how he would develop when he came to Houston. There are very few overzealous LOFs, but its easier to just clump them all in one group as opposed to discussing the idea of Lin being better off as the starter. God forbid.
     
  6. jackjax

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    LOF agree

    I am a LOF and I approve this message. Rockets needs someone to carry the second unit and Lin to finish the game most of the time. As much as I want him to start, he will still get hi ~30 min per. Not to mention Bev is perfect with Harden.
     
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    bloody hell i had my pitch fork and flames all ready for lin to mess this on up royally , was so close.
     
  8. Billionzz

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    Bev isn't perfect with Harden at all. You just saw from the above stats, and the eye test of the season so far that Lin is the better defender. If you watched tonights came, you saw Lin put pressure on the defense then gave the ball to Harden where he could then score easier in his iso. That wouldn't have happened with Bev in the game, the opposing teams aren't afraid of him driving on them or dishing the ball off. Harden is better with Lin on the floor because the defense has to honor Lin.
     
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    LOLOL
     
  10. jackjax

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    Are you referring to the end games? I have mentioned already Lin to finish the games as PG most of the time. And you have to pick your poison, its 4 quarters game. Without the second unit being effective, the first unit will eventually gas out. Well Rockets can get away with that in regular season but not in playoffs.

    Unfortunately, Lin surely gives so much fire with the second unit. Bev is good enough (see I did not say better) to be Harden's other PG in the starting 5.

    It is what it is since this is the make up of the team.
     
  11. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Lin is ok but should be coming off the bench to spark the 2nd unit and close games out. Lin is also really inconsistent.

    Lin is not playing to his contract and I'm sure Morey would be willing to use that money elsewhere if need be
     
  12. Razsan

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    Dwight Howard is averaging 18 and 12 with less than 2 blocks a game and shooting a horrifying 53% from the charity stripe....Is he playing to his contract and should he come off the bench???
     
  13. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Dwight Howard will not be traded. PG's are a dime a dozen and with Howard and Harden firmly established as franchise players, Morey will look at the other positions for a potential upgrade
     
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    I still maintain we don't have a starting PG but rather 3 backups. A trade for Rondo would be nice
     
  15. Aleron

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    Overall

    Lin allows 0.89ppp
    Bev allows 0.83ppp

    and for posterity

    Harden allows 0.82ppp
    Chandler allows 0.84ppp

    and everyone's favourite no d master, brooks allows 0.91ppp
     
  16. Razsan

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    I understand that but was the signing really that much of an improvement over Asik? Sure hes scores more but he SHOOTS a lot more. Asik shot 54% last year, Howard 58% this year. Asik 11.7 boards, Howard 12.7. Asik 1.1 blocks Howard 1.8...and of course both can't shoot FT's.
    Could we not use the argument that we had a decent center and it was an extravagant upgrade?
    I think we need to give Lin time with this lineup. The last 3 games has shown that Lin as a true PG is better than Lin not handling the ball. Is this a short trend...maybe, but he's passing well and shooting over 50% these past few games and more importantly, playing with confidence.
     
  17. Aleron

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    We've missed several games to every player on our roster except Dwight. and been playing hurt for quite a few more,

    Last year we suffered very few injuries and finished the season 8 games over 500, we are already 12 games over and we're not even at the half way mark.

    What do you think?
     
  18. Razsan

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    I'm in the east coast and have watched Rondo play his whole career. He likes the ball in his hands ALOT. Harden DEMANDS the ball in his hands...I don't see the fit, especially since Rondo is a career 24% shooter from 3.
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    Uh, come on now.

    There are more than a few overzealous Lin fans here.

    Although fewer have been posting recently, and my wife noticed none of the Lin fans posting on the Rockets' Facebook page last night (usually the same thing: McHale hates Lin, "50 people like this"; but last night, there was none).

    Kinda reinforces my idea that Lin's fans are predominantly school-college age and went back to classes yesterday?

    Anyway, Lin is a better player overall than Bev, but Bev is more constant. Lin will go more from "really good" one game to "never seen a basketball" the next game.

    It's just that, our bench sucks so much, Lin's supposed to bolster it.
     
  20. Aleron

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    Our first quarter roster is fairly static, we open with dwight, harden, parsons, jones, x, then switch jones with casspi and the point guards about the 6 minute mark. Not only has Bev worked better with Jones, but after 6 minutes of having mr 94 feet chase them around, their pg is usually in need of a break themselves, so that Lin Casspi lineup has killed.
     

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