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Lin leading all point guards (with 21 mins or more) in true shooting %

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JBar, Nov 12, 2013.

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  1. aurocketfan

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    Sorry to hijack this thread. But what a good read.

    From Reddit:

    The problem with Lin so far is that his career has been mired by having to adjust to different coaches and to playing seemingly every type of PG style imaginable.

    In Golden State, his was told to work on his shooting and not to drive. Given the lack of minutes, it might be good advice but it prevented him from developing his best skill (which is why it took until now for him to learn to use his left, which he has done very well this season). Basically, they wanted him to be a traditional PG that doesn't score so they can slot him in next to Monta or Curry.
    In NY, he got to be an attacking PnR PG under D'Antoni. Then under Woodson, he became more of a tempo pusher / setup PG.
    Then last year in Houston, he was set to be a PnR PG again until they signed Harden. Then they turned him into an offball PG (think any PG in Phil Jackson's Triangle Offense except in a run & gun system - makes no sense).
    Finally this year, they decided at the END of the summer to tell him that he'd be playing as a 6th man scoring PG (think Jarett Jack but far far less usage rate). thus marginalizing his opportunities to be a playmaker.

    In his career, that means he has had to adapt and play to 5 different PG playing styles. Of which, 4 of the style changes happened in under 2 years (one summer of which was spent recovering from injury). And of which, only one style really fits him as an inexperienced player. As a 3rd year pro, I can't think of any player in any position that has had to deal with as much change as Lin. So it is expected in my opinion that Lin should not be a good decision maker at this point.

    To rant a bit, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to judge how good Lin is compared to any other PG right now because McHale hasn't decided how to use Lin. We don't know what kind of PG Lin is/can/should be. So it is unfair to compare him to other players who know their roles. I know people are annoyed at McHale for not making Lin the primary playmaker, but I personally am pissed at him for dumping Lin to 6th man and changing his role AT THE LAST SECOND. It is a sign of a terrible coach when you cannot decide before training camp what role to give to your "starting" PG. People can say what they want of the D'Antonis, Mike Browns, and Larry Browns of the world. They may not know how to best utilize all of their players but at least they implement a system and force everyone to buy in. Players know what they have to do and they go out and (try to) do it.

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  2. dianelo

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    Ginobili is getting 10 million a year even at his age.
     
  3. Wilezra

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    Wow, good read. Despite all the adjustments, it's impressive Lin has managed to not only adjust, but excel. Really hope he can maintain his current numbers well into the season.
     
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    Mchale created this controversy due to his own incompetency. bev and Lin are two very different players. Mchale could not determine who to start means that he did not have a plan until the opening day... There is no system under Mchale.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    AB is good too, we ave three NBA PGs, that is great depth.

    DD
     
  6. Deckard

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    We can agree on this, DD. Bev's early injury already points out the need for AB, and I think it won't be the last time he fills the role. One of the flaws in Jeremy's game, something Clyde has pointed out (he isn't always wrong, btw), is that he constantly puts his body needlessly at risk. Lin doesn't seem to know how to fall. When he goes down, it's like a sack of potatoes hitting the court. Thud! The game is hard enough on a player's body as it is without adding to the on-going wear and tear, yet that's what Jeremy does. I'll continue to keep my fingers crossed that he can keep himself going. I love how his shooting has improved. It's a huge plus.
     
  7. ArtV

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    He's really got to cut down on the TOs. Each TO is worse than a missed shot. At least with the missed shot you have a chance for a rebound. I think once you factor in the TOs, he's not looking so good.
     
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    Morey has already stated that TOs are a part of the way we run our offense. He didn't seem concerned by it.
     
  9. landryfans

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    If you fact in TOs (3.5 per game), you aslo need fact in pass result in FT (0.9 per game, rank No.8), and pass close to rim.
     
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    TO's are misleading esp when it comes to JLin. He plays a lot with Asik and I have said this repeatedly. Lin would average two less TO's and two more assists if Asik could just catch the ball and dunk. Fact that Asik fumbles easy passes counts as a TO against Lin. Unfair IMO.
     
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    It actually makes me mad that he drifts and makes the double, leaving his man open. Did this in NY too, but it's possible the coach wants him to play that way though, so I can't really say that it's his own doing. I know he likes to play help D
     
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    Tell that to Harden.
     
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    I am sure if he chooses to leave one day, it is not because of money. He definitely is a more good PG than a SG, but he has to play a SG role because of Harden. I would take less money to play a real PG if I were Lin for sure. I don't want to stay at the corner for three like fisher if I know I have that skillsets to play better as a real PG.
     
  15. rockbox

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    How can you say he's more of a PG when he's only played point guard for a total of 1.5 seasons in his whole life. Lin was a SG in high school and college. Lin is a scorer through and through who just happens to be a good passer in the open court.
     
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    He played as a PG in NY, everyone saw how good he played as a PG. Linsanity because of that.
     
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    He played point guard in highschool.
     
  18. Grinds

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    Offensively, Lin is doing 2 things better than last year...

    1) Shooting better from the perimeter
    2) Finishing more consistently at the rim

    Same shots as last season, only now he doesn't need calls from the refs. You gotta shoot those shots in the paint strong like you're not getting the call. His outside shot is on point and defensive effort is good. He's flirting with being a legit #3 on a champion.. or 6th Man OTY. Great to see.
     
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    http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/questions-abound-with-lin-in-the-balance/?_r=0

    Not sure why this historical stuff about Lin's contract is getting so much play. In case people are interested, here is a Howard Beck article for NYT about what happened. It includes this about the first offer.

    Q.

    I heard Knicks officials repeatedly say that they would keep Lin, no matter the cost. Last week, Coach Mike Woodson even said Lin would be the starter, ahead of Jason Kidd. What happened?
    A.

    At the time Woodson spoke, Lin had an offer from Houston worth $19.5 million over three years, including a third-year balloon payment of $9.3 million. Once it became clear that Knicks intended to match that offer, Houston bumped the third year to $14.9 million. That extra $5 million triggered an extra $16.25 million in tax penalties. “So it adds another $21.25 million in consequences,” said Tom Penn, a former assistant general manager for the Portland Trail Blazers who now works as a cap expert for ESPN. As Penn put it, the poison pill became “a lot more poisonous” with that change.
     
  20. AvgJoe

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    I think it's a team strategy. I've seen that for both Harden and Bev, but Lin definitely roams more
     

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