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Limbaugh Says ‘Environmentalist Wackos’ Marked Earth Day by Blowing Up Oil Rig

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, May 2, 2010.

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  1. finalsbound

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    awesome.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    We should drill Palin for oil.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Guess you Houstonians won't be swimming in the gulf anytime soon.
     
  5. Refman

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    For Limbaugh to suggest that the oil rig explosion was intentional in order to make a political point without real evidence is reckless...even by Limbaugh standards.

    I certainly hope he expends upon this by accusing specific people. He could stand to have a nice, big lawsuit on his hands.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Another offshore well blew out off the coast of Mexico in 1979, in the Bay of Campeche. The coast of Texas was hit hard. I can't tell you how many years we had more than the usual number of tar balls in the sand, but it was a hell of a long time. It's surprising to me how people can be critical of states like Florida and California for wanting to prevent offshore drilling along their coasts. Just a look at their beaches and a look at our own shows the price to be paid for having them. In my opinion, there should be a moritorium on offshore drilling off any coast in the United States until they can make radical improvements in the technology used to prevent these kinds of disasters. They are simply unacceptable. Hundreds of thousands will lose their jobs because of this. Many will never get them back, because making a living off the sea is hard enough as it is, with most just getting by (while we enjoy the fish and shellfish they harvest for us). This will push a lot of families over the edge. Putting the human cost aside, the environmental damage is incalculable. Rush Limbaugh? A clown. An idiot. A fool. Anyone who actually believes the crap he spews everyday is in need of some therapy. I'm serious.

    What an amazingly depressing thing to happen. :(
     
  7. Refman

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    Deck...

    It just is not that simple. We are the only nation that refuses to utilize its energy resources. When we force ourselves to be dependent on somebody else's energy resources, we are walking a very dangerous line.

    I would prefer that the drilling companies be required to demonstrate through schematics that they have the proper equipment in place and detailed emergency procedures. I would even be ok with government observers overseeing the equipment installation.

    I do not think that the wholesale cessation of drilling is going to be an economically sustainable notion.
     
  8. justtxyank

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    I know a lot of people who think this was intentional. They range from eco-terrorists (I try to explain that this would be akin to burning the rain forest to stop people from logging) to the Obama administration sabotaging to prevent future drilling to big oil being in cahoots with the federal government to get a payoff.

    It's bizarre really.
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    No matter what precautions or studies you do how do you prepare for mother nature. There is tremendous amounts of pressure down there and there is some inherent danger. We need to get rid of oil.
     
  10. Refman

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    Agreed. But we have to be able to get to that point.

    Remember after Katrina...the spiraling out of control of oil prices. And the drilling was disrupted for only a few days. Imagine if we cut it off entirely.
     
  11. Deckard

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    I understand the downside to what I posted, but as I said, this is simply unacceptable, in my opinion. I'm not saying to shut down the wells that are pumping now, nor am I saying we shouldn't drill in the future, but unless this problem is taken more seriously and a far better system is in place to deal with a potential problem like we are seeing today, it's what I think we should do. This will take decades to recover from. Decades. As we type here, BP is furiously trying to build these massive cone things to put over the leaks (there are at least three), so they can contain the spewing oil and pump it to where it needs to go. They should have been built, awaiting a disaster just like this. Will it cost us something to put a moratorium in place? Of course. It is a price I'm willing to pay.

    This needs to be handled ahead of time, not reactively, which is exactly what we are seeing today.
     
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    Whatever happened to conservation?
     
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    I remember as a kid in the early 80's stepping on tar bars down at Galveston.
     
  14. Refman

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    My understanding (which may be wrong) is that there is technology available to make accidents a lot less likely. BP just wasn't using it. If that is accurate, then shame on BP. It should be mandatory.

    My concern is that it is a cost that many cannot afford to pay. Some people are struggling as it is to afford to run their vehicles to go to work and keep their households running.

    I was 4 years old during the time of gas lines and shortages in the 1970s. I do not want to revisit that scenario. I fear that prolonged moritioriums on drilling will eventually lead us there.

    We really do not disagree much on this. I am more frightened by the economic effects of reduced oil production.
     
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    While I was far from being a kid, I remember them too well. It was the Campeche blowout. At the rate this thing is going, we'll be seeing them in similar numbers again, or worse. There's nothing written in the tar polluted sands that says this mess won't drift over to Texas, or Florida, for that matter. It is huge.

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    Every little bit helps conservation, alternatives, fossil fuels....

    Our energy demand grows every year. Emerging nations also need cheap energy to continue their rapid growth.
     
  17. B-Bob

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    I used to be fond of the cliche: "You can't unring a bell."

    But now I'm wondering if we should be realizing: "You can't undumb a person." Once you get them to abandon logic, there's no going back. :(

    As for Limbaugh, the (posted for free!) B-Bob lead pipe lock prediction: Rush gets ever more extreme and ridiculous as he sees his empire invaded by Glenn Beck. This reaction will backfire and he will lose his empire more quickly.
     
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    Isn't there some law of Thermodynamics about that?
     

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