Like a dictator, Obama threatens unprecedented gun control by executive order

Consider then that crimes has dropped in NYC since stricter gun control was enacted.

 

I hate to bring this up but an armed Jewish resistance did fight the Nazis in the Warsaw ghetto. Guess what. They were brutally crushed.

Anyway as I've said before all this is paranoia. Do y'all really believe that the US is remotely close to being a dictatorship? Take this thread for example you simultaneously have the same posters alternately accusing Obama of being lazy and incompentent while being a dictator. I hate to break it to you but becoming a dictator in a democratic republic is a going to take a lot of work.

 

But at least they went down drawing blood and expending precious resources from the enemy. The Americans didn't beat Britain just on war victories. It was the cost factor and resource exhaustion as well...that is why simple small arms can do more than you think.

 

Of course it could happen. Executive power lends itself to dictatorship no matter the side.

 

What about Texas with its crime drop this year?

 

Only in America, where ****ing republicans somehow managed to relate gun control to dictatorship.

 

America **** yea!

 

It also could be the results of roe vs wade.

 

Completely negating an amendment to the constitution (regardless of which one) with an executive order is the move of a dictator. We have a democratic system to enact sweeping changes, and a Supreme Court to ensure that they are legal. They've worked pretty well for 230+ years.

 

no. The relationship is executive orders that go against amendments to dictators.....

Far too many in this thread are okay with the lack of democratic process. It's scary.

 

Just for context.

 

How can this administration send weapons and ammunition to rebels, in third world countries like Libya and into Mexico's drug wars..yet want to infringe on that right for it's own citizens? What about the people getting killed by those weapons? Are their citizens lives not as important since they don't agree with us? So basically they were throwing more firearms into a situation (a civil war) that is a lot more volatile then in the US. US seems to have a habit of this. However, arming it's own citizens is wrong even though firearms have been a staple in US homes for over century? Why is it OK? Where are the liberals screaming for the victims from our supplied weaponry? It's because they have a different agenda and do not care about "infringing" on anyone's rights as long as it doesn't affect theirs.

Hey I don't drink but I don't blame alcohol for DWI deaths. Where smart people will know it's the idiot that decided to drink & drive which is the problem.. the ignorant people will decide that we should ban alcohol for everyone to solve the issue. Let's coddle the criminals, give them benefits, some welfare and reform them.. That's great in a utopian society, too bad that's just a fairy tale.

 

you will need to show the context of that post. I am almost positive it was a war time reference.

 

Well, we're at war with terror. Works for me. Obama, Lincoln, dictators... okay. Good job.

 

lol. well we are talking about gun regulation not actions relating to war (civil war in Lincoln's case). I am sure you don't care though. You have no moral code and couldn't care less about the democratic process.

 

So what would you have us do, then? Should we allow fully automatic weapons with tripods? Shoulder fired anti-tank missiles? After all, those are some of the items we send to people we're supporting, if we think it's in our natiuonal interest to do so.

We coddle criminals? Are you freakin' kidding me? All you are doing, with all due respect, is exhibiting your ignorance. The United States of America has the largest population behind bars in the world. We have the highest rate of prisoners per hundred thousand citizens.



We lead the world in the number of people in prisons, the actual number, not just the rate with which citizens are behind bars, with about 600,000 more that China sitting in prisons. 2,239,751 people were behind bars in the United States in 2007, and more than likely that's increased since then. Look it up. Searching for knowledge is good for you.

http://www.prisonstudies.org/info/worldbrief/wpb_stats.php?area=all&category=wb_poptotal

I wish I could say that your lack of knowledge was unusual, but it is not. If all you do is watch Fox News, and listen to radio talking heads like Limbaugh, then you're going to be filled with misinformation. Wake up, dude. You're buying a load of bull**** from sources that know damn well that they are selling you a load of bull****.

 

I admire the people who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto but they made practically no dent in the Nazi War Machine. As as the US Revolution the differences between then and now make it largely irrelevant to compare it to mechanized and industrialized militaries of the last 150 years.

Further if you are going to talk about a battle of citizens with small arms fighting off a government even taking Revolutionary War technology the US government fairly easily crushed the Shays and Whiskey Rebellions.

You are missing the point. You can't alternately say that Obama is lazy and incompetent and then a dictator given what it takes to become a dictator. Outside of inherited power dictator going all the way back to Julius Ceasar have been highly driven competent men.

What about it? So has MN and NYC. I am willing to agree that the tie between gun laws, gun ownership and total crime isn't very clear. What I think can be fairly well proven is that deaths decrease when there is less access to weapons of greater lethality. Even the stats that were shown regarding Australia illustrate that point. While that article said that assaults and rapes were up it also pointed out that murders where down and stated that massacres had decreased. So yes people determined will hurt people will find a way to do so but guns make it much much easier to kill.

 

So you need a few more elementary school shootings to happen before we do anything? One is not enough for you?

American culture/mindset is rather disgusting sometimes, honestly.

 

True it could be. As I said the tie between gun laws and total crime isn't clear. While banning guns might not lead to less total crime allowing more guns though doesn't necessarily either. This argument that we need guns to be safe is very questionable.

 

Well why do we send attack helicopters and F-16 to Taiwan instead of letting our own citizens have them?

And as been said repeatedly this is why we heavily regulate alcohol and cars.