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Like a dictator, Obama threatens unprecedented gun control by executive order

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Granville

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    Colombine wasn't an elementary school but those were kids that were killed there and Colombine was likely motivation for this latest crazy b*stard with access to assault rifles and high capacity magazine clips. I wouldn't focus on elementary kids as much as kids have been killed in a similar fashion elsewhere.
     
  2. Rashmon

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    You're forgetting how shiftless he appears to be as well. I fixed it for you.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    It shows me that this article is using stats that don't make any sense, and hoping that people will fall for it. Apparently some have.

    What the stats show is that in Australia there are fewer homicides and fewer armed robberies. So yes it did work.

    The article then throws in some of what you've bolded which isn't related to guns at all. There's an increase in assault and sexual assault. Unless those increases were all do to criminals still having guns then it doesn't change the fact that murders decreased and armed robberies decreased.

    In Great Britain their fire arm homicides are almost non-existent so yes it worked there too.
     
  4. magnetik

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    are you serious? YOU OF ALL PEOPLE STATED HISTORY SAID I WAS WRONG. I proved you wrong and you call me an idiot? and then try and associate all gun owners to this mentally unstable, criminal, that didn't follow any laws, and shot up a school full of kids? Who's the idiot? You.
     
  5. ROXRAN

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    Idiot ass Biden isn't even sure if his proposals can do anything of gain. Complete baffoon.
     
  6. Granville

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    Banning assault rifles and high magazine clips isn't going to disarm the public. That's a bull**** argument. Banning those weapons and ammunition types makes shooting guns less fun for some of you and that's more important than the possibility of reducing the casualties inflicted by some nut who can pin people down by not having to reload frequently.
     
  7. QdoubleA

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    So you're saying if we have better gun control we won't be able to stop the uprising of an insane dictator from taking control. You sir, should teach a class, write a book, whatever you have to do to spread this knowledge to the masses. The people need to know! All those crazy dictators in japan and Norway are just tearing their citizens to pieces! Magnetic we need to spread your message!!!

    Oh wait...nvm, we have this going on
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...te-suspect-talked-into-surrendering-by-staff/

    My unwillingness to accept current and real tragedy trumps your imaginary one.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    That article you cite actually says that gun crimes decreased in Australia including massacres.
     
  9. PointForward

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    Ya know, if so called Republicans weren't so f***ing obsessed with Barack Obama and trying to paint him as the devil, perhaps they would've been able to present to the public the incredibly logical argument for maintaining the status quo on gun control. Gun laws aren't the problem, attention starved f***ed up kids who want to be sensationalized by the media like the columbine a$$holes were, however, are the problem.

    The argument for upholding the 2nd amendment isn't hunting, nor is it the original argument for its institution, which was "defending ourselves against a tyrannical government". The argument that holds up today is that we have a right to bear arms and defend ourselves from dangers, because when a murder wants a gun, he WILL manage to get a ******* gun regardless of the laws, because a person willing to massacre 20 people and then put a bullet in his own head isn't scared of going to jail on charges of "attempting to purchase a gun". By instituting gun control, you're not taking guns away from everybody equally, you're simply taking them away from law abiding citizens, while criminals and a$$holes everywhere will continue to find a way to get a gun. Look no further than the "drug war" for a perfect model on how gun control would look like.

    I live in an ordinary middle class neighborhood. We own several guns. If guns were outlawed, we obviously would abide by the law and turn all of them in, and so will every person in my neighborhood. But now a burglar/murderer/a$$hole can rest assured that he can bust into any house without much resistance or the risk of being shot in the face by a 12 gauge, and his life would be much easier.

    Let's stop calling mass murderers "mental patients who just needed help/love". They're not. They're a$$holes. They don't need help, they just need national media to stop treating every shooting like a ******* circus. You know how many people get shot on a daily basis in Houston alone? Why doesn't CNN, Fox, and MSNBC run nonstop stories about those awful shootings? When you have a corps of media outlets that are obsessed with ratings and making money, they create excitement out of stories like this, and they inspire dormant a$$holes living in their parents basement to bust out of their bubble and go murder some kids then commit suicide and make it to the history books and on every TV channel. It's about time we blame the right people and stop blaming video games, guns, mental illness, and lack of "love".
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    For those who keep on bringing up dictators consider that Saddam Hussein after Gulf War I armed pretty much every family in Iraq with a Kalishnikovs. They neither could overthrow Saddam or keep the US military from invading.
     
  11. magnetik

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    don't forget 40% increase in assaults and 20% increase in rapes. Guess that's what happens when you can't defend yourself.
     
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    What about the other dictators. Better to go down where you can pry the gun out the cold hands then face the gas chambers.
     
  13. ROXRAN

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    Selective it seems.
     
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    1/5th of all rapes are prevented by guns?

    I guess that's what happens when you can't read.
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    With a 9% decrease in murders. As I've said before guns don't kill people they just make it a lot easier.

    As far as trying to tie in the increase in assaults and rapes to guns as often been said correlation isn't causation. Consider that the murder rate in Texas is much higher than Minnesota even though gun laws and ownership is much higher in Texas than in Minnesota. If guns were the answer to security why would a high gun state be much more violent than a low gun state?
     
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    [​IMG]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting
     
  17. tallanvor

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    If you are doing proper statistics you wouldn't compare a gun-free zone with non-gun-free zone. You would compare one area before it was a gun-free zone to after it was a gun-free zone. That's why Chicago is a popular subject for gun control.
     
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    inkome......popullacion.......drug traffikin.........boarder warz.........biger citiez......logik........reazon........
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Sure. Yemen has one of the highest per capita gun ownerships and also has a fairly corrupt and brutal government (although one allied with the US). Saudi Arabia also has a relatively high gun ownership and a restive Shiite minority and extremists Islamic groups that have tried to overthrow the house of Saud but have not succeeded. Next consider in a place like Somalia which is awash in arms yet it took a foreign military to dislodge Al Shabaab out of Mogadishu.

    In almost every case since the 20th century small arms and rifles played little role in protecting individual from even a second rate military. Just to give you a US example consider that the Branch Davidians at Waco and MOVE in Philadelphia had many small arms. We know what happened at Waco and MOVE in Philadelphia was destroyed not even by Feds but the Philadelphia police.
     
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    All those Jews on marching orders from Hitler wish they had a chance to fight back, not win, but at least make a defense.

    I would want the same thing.
     

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